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Thanks, everyone, for connecting the dots for me after Paul's cryptic  
message (cryptic only for me).  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.

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> From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> Date: December 11, 2013 9:41:03 AM AST
> To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge vs. skunks & road salt
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> Yes Jamie, Bonshaw is a great spot. Some great hills covered
> with big trees - very unique on PEI - other places too now that I  
> think of it. The West River is great fishing also.
> Ian Macquarie wrote a good book on the Bonshaw Hills. Lots of good
> nature stuff in it - as well as a few new verbs!
> Enjoy the last few days of the fall
> Paul
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:43:29 AM, Shouty McShoutsalot  
> <desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm thinking the eggs are the bait and moonlight provides  
> illumination for the 12 gauge?  That would have been my GF's MO.   
> He farmed in the St Catharine's (Bonshaw) area of PEI.
>
>
> On 11 December 2013 06:10, Rick Whitman  
> <dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com> wrote:
> Eggs and moonlight, Jim. The third leg of this rural stool was  
> someone sitting quietly in the shade with a shotgun.
> Rick.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, James W. Wolford  
> <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> Paul, are you saying a full Moon keeps the skunks from foraging as  
> much as otherwise?  Some predators do better at night with  
> Moonlight, e.g., gulls looking for storm petrels returning to their  
> burrows from out at sea.  Jim in Wolfivlle.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
>> Date: December 10, 2013 1:59:22 PM AST
>> To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>> My Grandfather knew how to protect the huns from skunks Ken.
>> A dozen eggs and a full moon worked wonders!
>> Have a nice fall
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:51:36 PM, Ken McKenna  
>> <kenmcken@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Ken McKenna
>> Box 218 Stellarton NS
>> B0K 1S0
>> 902 752-7644
>>
>> Hi Paul and all
>> As you say, they are not as common as they used to be on PEI.  I  
>> think predation of eggs by skunks (another PEI introduced species  
>> I believe) might have been a factor in decline as well. My  
>> grandmother used to feed a healthy flock in winter ( maybe back in  
>> the '60's) on Baldwins Rd, Kings Co (PEI). Every now and then I  
>> see a few around and on my last trip "back home" on Oct. 18, I saw  
>> five just off the Baldwins Rd. near St. Teresa.
>>
>> The scientific name Perdix led to the nickname for one near the  
>> home of the Spaldings in Economy NS and "Perry" made his way into  
>> several CBCs before he finally disappeared. It has been quite a  
>> few years since one  has been seen on that count.
>>
>> cheers
>> Ken
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Paul MacDonald
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Porous pavement: Re: [NatureNS] mourning doves among  
>> road salt
>>
>> Hi Fred  and All
>> Growing up on PEI, Huns Perdix perdix now called Gray Partridge
>> we very plentiful. My Grandfather used to feed them in the winter and
>> he would have up to100 birds. He would sweep the snow of a south  
>> facing porch and they would roost there on a sunny day. He kept a  
>> box of grit for them and they ate a susprising amount.
>> Roads were neither plowed or salted and school was not too important
>> in the winter. Then in the late 50s they built regional high  
>> schools with
>> buses and all. The road were then plowed and salted. The Huns found
>> the sand and salt a great source of grit. That was the end on the  
>> Huns.
>> Road salt killed them all - same story all over PEI and since then  
>> there
>> are very few. Only a scattered flock here and there.
>> They were a fine bird - we had a few to eat in the fall but they  
>> multiplied
>> so fast a few less made no difference.
>>  Some things don't mix
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rick Whitman
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jamie Simpson
> Hantsport, NS
>
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Thanks, everyone, for connecting the dots for me after Paul's cryptic =
message (cryptic only for me). &nbsp;Cheers from Jim in =
Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
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style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Paul MacDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">December 11, 2013 9:41:03 AM =
AST</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">"<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>" =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</f=
ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge =
vs. skunks &amp; road salt</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Yes Jamie, Bonshaw is a great =
spot. Some great hills covered </span></div><div><span>with big trees - =
very unique on PEI - other places too now that I think of it. The West =
River is great fishing also.</span></div><div><span>Ian Macquarie wrote =
a good book on the Bonshaw Hills. Lots of good =
</span></div><div><span>nature stuff in it - as well as a few new =
verbs!</span></div><div><span>Enjoy the last few days of the =
fall</span></div><div><span>Paul</span></div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div=
><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <br> <br> <div =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:43:29 AM, Shouty =
McShoutsalot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com">desolatechair@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div =
id=3D"yiv5094566580"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm thinking the eggs are the =
bait and moonlight provides illumination for the 12 gauge? &nbsp;That =
would have been my GF's MO. &nbsp;He farmed in the St Catharine's =
(Bonshaw) area of PEI.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_extra">=
 <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div =
class=3D"yiv5094566580yqt0493240711" id=3D"yiv5094566580yqt15581"><div =
class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_quote">On 11 December 2013 06:10, Rick =
Whitman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com">dendroica.caerulescens=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote =
class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Eggs =
and moonlight, Jim. The third leg of this rural stool was someone =
sitting quietly in the shade with a shotgun.<div>Rick.</div></div><div =
class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"yiv5094566580h5"><br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div =
class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_quote"> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, =
James W. Wolford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> <blockquote =
class=3D"yiv5094566580gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div =
style=3D"-ms-word-wrap: break-word;"> Paul, are you saying a full Moon =
keeps the skunks from foraging as much as otherwise? &nbsp;Some =
predators do better at night with Moonlight, e.g., gulls looking for =
storm petrels returning to their burrows from out at sea. &nbsp;Jim in =
Wolfivlle.<br clear=3D"none"> <div><br clear=3D"none"><div>Begin =
forwarded message:</div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: =
12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: =
normal;"><b>From: </b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12px/normal =
Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">Paul MacDonald =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</=
font></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3"=
 style=3D"font: 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Date: </b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font:=
 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: =
normal;">December 10, 2013 1:59:22 PM AST</font></div> <div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: =
12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: =
normal;"><b>To: </b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12px/normal =
Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">"<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>" =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;=
</font></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font color=3D"#000000" =
size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject: </b></font><font size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray =
Partridge</b></font></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font =
color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12px/normal Helvetica; =
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Reply-To: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12px/normal Helvetica; =
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></fo=
nt></div> <div style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: =
14pt;"><div> <span>My Grandfather knew how to protect the huns from =
skunks Ken.</span></div><div><span>A dozen eggs and a full moon worked =
wonders!</span></div><div><span>Have a nice =
fall</span></div><div><span>Paul</span></div><div style=3D"display: =
block;">  <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">  <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> =
On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:51:36 PM, Ken McKenna &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div>  <div><div>    <div>  =
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div> <div>Ken McKenna<br =
clear=3D"none">Box 218 Stellarton NS<br clear=3D"none">B0K 1S0<br =
clear=3D"none"><a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">902 =
752-7644</a><br clear=3D"none"></div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div><font =
face=3D"Arial">Hi Paul and all</font></div>  <div><font face=3D"Arial">As =
you say, they are not as common as they used to be on PEI.&nbsp; I think =
predation of eggs&nbsp;by skunks (another PEI introduced species I =
believe)&nbsp;might have been a factor&nbsp;in decline as well. My =
grandmother used to feed a healthy flock in winter ( maybe back in the =
'60's)&nbsp;on Baldwins Rd, Kings Co (PEI). Every now and then I see a =
few around and on my last trip "back home"&nbsp;on Oct. 18,&nbsp;I saw =
five&nbsp;just off the Baldwins Rd. near St. Teresa.</font></div>  =
<div>&nbsp;</div> <div><font face=3D"Arial">The scientific name Perdix =
led to the nickname for one near the home of the Spaldings in Economy NS =
and "Perry" made his way into several CBCs before he finally =
disappeared. It has been quite a few years since one&nbsp; has been seen =
on that count. </font></div>  <div>&nbsp;</div> <div><font =
face=3D"Arial">cheers</font></div> <div><font =
face=3D"Arial">Ken</font></div> <div><font =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;----- Original =
Message ----- </div> <blockquote style=3D"padding-right: 0px; =
padding-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; =
border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid;" dir=3D"ltr">   <div style=3D"background: =
rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b>   <a title=3D"paulrita2001@yahoo.com" =
href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com">Paul   =
MacDonald</a> </div>   <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; =
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a =
title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> =
</div>   <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 7:31   =
PM</div>  <div style=3D"font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Porous pavement: Re:   =
[NatureNS] mourning doves among road salt</div>   <div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: =
14pt;">  <div><span>Hi Fred&nbsp; and All</span></div>  =
<div><span>Growing up on PEI, Huns Perdix perdix now called Gray   =
Partridge</span></div>   <div><span>we very plentiful. My Grandfather =
used to feed them in the winter   and</span></div>  <div><span>he would =
have up to100 birds. He would sweep the snow of a south   facing =
</span><span>porch and they would roost there on a sunny day. He kept a  =
 box of grit </span><span>for them and they ate a susprising   =
amount.</span></div>   <div><span>Roads were neither plowed or salted =
and school was not too   important</span></div>  <div><span>in the =
winter. Then in the late 50s they built regional high   schools =
with</span></div>  <div><span>buses and all. The road were then plowed =
and salted. The Huns   found</span></div>   <div><span>the sand and salt =
a great source of grit. That was the end on the   Huns.</span></div>  =
<div><span>Road salt killed them all - same story all over PEI and since =
then   there</span></div>  <div><span>are very few. Only a scattered =
flock here and there.</span></div>   <div><span>They were a fine bird - =
we had a few to eat in the fall but they   multiplied</span></div>  =
<div><span>so fast a few less made no difference.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></div>  <div><span>&nbsp;Some things don't mix</span></div>   =
<div><span>Paul</span></div>  <div style=3D"display: block;"><br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">  <div style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">  <div style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> =
&nbsp;</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div> =
</div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></blockquote></div><br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"all"><div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div></div></div><span class=3D"yiv5094566580HOEnZb"><font=
 color=3D"#888888">-- <br clear=3D"none"> Rick Whitman<br clear=3D"none"> =
</font></span></div> </blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"all"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>-- <br clear=3D"none"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jamie Simpson<br clear=3D"none"></div>Hantsport, NS<br =
clear=3D"none"></div> </div></div></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  =
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