[NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge vs. skunks & road salt

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Paul  My grandfather, Walter Shaw, wrote a book about the old days and old
stories growing up in the Bonshaw area as well, and I've camped, canoed,
and taken some lovely sea-run Brookies out of the West River and up above
the old mill pond.  Regards,  Jamie Simpson


On 11 December 2013 09:41, Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes Jamie, Bonshaw is a great spot. Some great hills covered
> with big trees - very unique on PEI - other places too now that I think of
> it. The West River is great fishing also.
> Ian Macquarie wrote a good book on the Bonshaw Hills. Lots of good
> nature stuff in it - as well as a few new verbs!
> Enjoy the last few days of the fall
> Paul
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:43:29 AM, Shouty McShoutsalot <
> desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I'm thinking the eggs are the bait and moonlight provides illumination
> for the 12 gauge?  That would have been my GF's MO.  He farmed in the St
> Catharine's (Bonshaw) area of PEI.
>
>
> On 11 December 2013 06:10, Rick Whitman <dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Eggs and moonlight, Jim. The third leg of this rural stool was someone
> sitting quietly in the shade with a shotgun.
> Rick.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, James W. Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>wrote:
>
> Paul, are you saying a full Moon keeps the skunks from foraging as much as
> otherwise?  Some predators do better at night with Moonlight, e.g., gulls
> looking for storm petrels returning to their burrows from out at sea.  Jim
> in Wolfivlle.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> *Date: *December 10, 2013 1:59:22 PM AST
> *To: *"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Subject: **Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge*
> *Reply-To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>  My Grandfather knew how to protect the huns from skunks Ken.
> A dozen eggs and a full moon worked wonders!
> Have a nice fall
> Paul
>
>
>   On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:51:36 PM, Ken McKenna <
> kenmcken@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> Ken McKenna
> Box 218 Stellarton NS
> B0K 1S0
> 902 752-7644
>
> Hi Paul and all
> As you say, they are not as common as they used to be on PEI.  I think
> predation of eggs by skunks (another PEI introduced species I
> believe) might have been a factor in decline as well. My grandmother used
> to feed a healthy flock in winter ( maybe back in the '60's) on Baldwins
> Rd, Kings Co (PEI). Every now and then I see a few around and on my last
> trip "back home" on Oct. 18, I saw five just off the Baldwins Rd. near St.
> Teresa.
>
> The scientific name Perdix led to the nickname for one near the home of
> the Spaldings in Economy NS and "Perry" made his way into several CBCs
> before he finally disappeared. It has been quite a few years since one  has
> been seen on that count.
>
> cheers
> Ken
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Monday, December 09, 2013 7:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Porous pavement: Re: [NatureNS] mourning doves among road
> salt
>
>  Hi Fred  and All
> Growing up on PEI, Huns Perdix perdix now called Gray Partridge
> we very plentiful. My Grandfather used to feed them in the winter and
> he would have up to100 birds. He would sweep the snow of a south facing porch
> and they would roost there on a sunny day. He kept a box of grit for them
> and they ate a susprising amount.
> Roads were neither plowed or salted and school was not too important
> in the winter. Then in the late 50s they built regional high schools with
> buses and all. The road were then plowed and salted. The Huns found
> the sand and salt a great source of grit. That was the end on the Huns.
> Road salt killed them all - same story all over PEI and since then there
> are very few. Only a scattered flock here and there.
> They were a fine bird - we had a few to eat in the fall but they multiplied
> so fast a few less made no difference.
>  Some things don't mix
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rick Whitman
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jamie Simpson
> Hantsport, NS
>
>
>


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Jamie Simpson
Hantsport, NS

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Paul =A0My grandfather, Walter Shaw, wrote a book about th=
e old days and old stories growing up in the Bonshaw area as well, and I&#3=
9;ve camped, canoed, and taken some lovely sea-run Brookies out of the West=
 River and up above the old mill pond. =A0Regards, =A0Jamie Simpson</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 Decembe=
r 2013 09:41, Paul MacDonald <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulri=
ta2001@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-famil=
y:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><d=
iv>
<span>Yes Jamie, Bonshaw is a great spot. Some great hills covered </span><=
/div><div><span>with big trees - very unique on PEI - other places too now =
that I think of it. The West River is great fishing also.</span></div><div>
<span>Ian Macquarie wrote a good book on the Bonshaw Hills. Lots of good </=
span></div><div><span>nature stuff in it - as well as a few new verbs!</spa=
n></div><div><span>Enjoy the last few days of the fall</span></div><span cl=
ass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div>
<span>Paul</span></div></font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><span></sp=
an>=A0</div><div style=3D"display:block"> <br> <br> <div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:14pt">
 <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luc=
ida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
 <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:=
43:29 AM, Shouty McShoutsalot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">desolatechair@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </di=
v>  <div>
<div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m thinking the eggs are the bait and moonl=
ight provides illumination for the 12 gauge? =A0That would have been my GF&=
#39;s MO. =A0He farmed in the St Catharine&#39;s (Bonshaw) area of PEI.=A0<=
/div>
<div>
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div><div>On 11 December 2013 06:10, =
Rick Whitman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dendroica.caerulescens=
@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">dendroica.cae=
rulescens@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Eggs and moonlight, Jim. The third leg of this rural stool=
 was someone sitting quietly in the shade with a shotgun.<div>Rick.</div></=
div><div><div><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div>
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, James W. Wolford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" targ=
et=3D"_blank">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none=
">
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div>
Paul, are you saying a full Moon keeps the skunks from foraging as much as =
otherwise? =A0Some predators do better at night with Moonlight, e.g., gulls=
 looking for storm petrels returning to their burrows from out at sea. =A0J=
im in Wolfivlle.<br clear=3D"none">


<div><br clear=3D"none"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br clear=3D"non=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin:0px"><font color=3D"#0000=
00" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;fo=
nt-stretch:normal"><b>From: </b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12px/=
normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">Paul MacDonald =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" target=3D"_blank">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</font></div>


<div style=3D"margin:0px"><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:=
12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Date: <=
/b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-ad=
just:none;font-stretch:normal">December 10, 2013 1:59:22 PM AST</font></div=
>


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12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>To: </b=
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st:none;font-stretch:normal">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.c=
a" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</font></d=
iv>


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12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject=
: </b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12px/normal Helvetica;font-size=
-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Huns- Gray Partridge</b=
></font></div>


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yle=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gran=
de,sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div>

<span>My Grandfather knew how to protect the huns from skunks Ken.</span></=
div><div><span>A dozen eggs and a full moon worked wonders!</span></div><di=
v><span>Have a nice fall</span></div><div><span>Paul</span></div><div style=
=3D"display:block">


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aNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
t"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,=
Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">


 <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:51:3=
6 PM, Ken McKenna &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
 clear=3D"none">
 </font> </div>  <div><div>    <div>

 <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div> <div>Ken McKenna<br clear=3D"no=
ne">Box 218 Stellarton NS<br clear=3D"none">B0K 1S0<br clear=3D"none"><a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">902 752-7644</a><br clear=3D"none"></div> <di=
v>=A0</div> <div>
<font face=3D"Arial">Hi Paul and all</font></div>

 <div><font face=3D"Arial">As you say, they are not as common as they used =
to be on PEI.=A0 I think predation of eggs=A0by skunks (another PEI introdu=
ced species I believe)=A0might have been a factor=A0in decline as well. My =
grandmother used to feed a healthy flock in winter ( maybe back in the &#39=
;60&#39;s)=A0on Baldwins Rd, Kings Co (PEI). Every now and then I see a few=
 around and on my last trip &quot;back home&quot;=A0on Oct. 18,=A0I saw fiv=
e=A0just off the Baldwins Rd. near St. Teresa.</font></div>


 <div>=A0</div> <div><font face=3D"Arial">The scientific name Perdix led to=
 the nickname for one near the home of the Spaldings in Economy NS and &quo=
t;Perry&quot; made his way into several CBCs before he finally disappeared.=
 It has been quite a few years since one=A0 has been seen on that count. </=
font></div>


 <div>=A0</div> <div><font face=3D"Arial">cheers</font></div> <div><font fa=
ce=3D"Arial">Ken</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div> <d=
iv>=A0=A0----- Original Message ----- </div> <blockquote style=3D"padding-r=
ight:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:5px;border-left-colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid" dir=3D"ltr">


  <div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt/normal arial;font-siz=
e-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>   <a title=3D"paulrita2001@=
yahoo.com" href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank">Paul   MacDonald</a> </div>


  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:natur=
ens@chebucto.ns.ca" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">natur=
ens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> </div>


  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 7:31   PM</div>  <div style=
=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: Porous pavement: Re:   [NatureNS] mourning doves among road =
salt</div>


  <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,H=
elvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:14pt">  <d=
iv><span>Hi Fred=A0 and All</span></div>  <div><span>Growing up on PEI, Hun=
s Perdix perdix now called Gray   Partridge</span></div>


  <div><span>we very plentiful. My Grandfather used to feed them in the win=
ter   and</span></div>  <div><span>he would have up to100 birds. He would s=
weep the snow of a south   facing </span><span>porch and they would roost t=
here on a sunny day. He kept a   box of grit </span><span>for them and they=
 ate a susprising   amount.</span></div>


  <div><span>Roads were neither plowed or salted and school was not too   i=
mportant</span></div>  <div><span>in the winter. Then in the late 50s they =
built regional high   schools with</span></div>  <div><span>buses and all. =
The road were then plowed and salted. The Huns   found</span></div>


  <div><span>the sand and salt a great source of grit. That was the end on =
the   Huns.</span></div>  <div><span>Road salt killed them all - same story=
 all over PEI and since then   there</span></div>  <div><span>are very few.=
 Only a scattered flock here and there.</span></div>


  <div><span>They were a fine bird - we had a few to eat in the fall but th=
ey   multiplied</span></div>  <div><span>so fast a few less made no differe=
nce.=A0=A0 </span></div>  <div><span>=A0Some things don&#39;t mix</span></d=
iv>


  <div><span>Paul</span></div>  <div style=3D"display:block"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica=
 Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:14pt">  <div style=
=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,=
sans-serif;font-size:12pt">


=A0</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div> </div></blockquote></div><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"all"=
><div><br clear=3D"none">
</div></div></div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br clear=3D"none">
Rick Whitman<br clear=3D"none">
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"all"><div><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div>-- <br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jamie Simpson<=
br clear=3D"none"></div>Hantsport, NS<br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div></div></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div> </div></div></div><=
/div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div>Jamie Simpson<br></div>Hantsport, NS<br></div>
</div>

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