[NatureNS] re Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, Sept. 29/13, evening.

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> From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Date: September 30, 2013 10:13:09 AM ADT
> To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca>, brianbarkman@yahoo.ca
> Cc: Chris Field <field@mathstat.dal.ca>, "Ally (Allison) Manthorne"  
> <amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org>
> Subject: [ValleyNature] re Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, Sept. 29/13,  
> evening.
>
> Brian, thanks for the original note below as well as your quick  
> response.  I think the season is past any large flocks of swallows  
> or swifts, and your remarks make me think that starlings are much  
> more probable, especially if there is a nearby farm building where  
> they can roost for the night (or even under a bridge, if there is  
> one nearby) or some other human-made structure that they can fly in  
> and out of.  There would be a mass emergence in the early morning  
> to look for.  These notes might stimulate someone in the area to be  
> alert for the next few days in Kingsport.
>
> Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Brian Barkman <brianbarkman@yahoo.ca>
>> Date: September 30, 2013 8:02:12 AM ADT
>> To: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, Sept. 29/13, evening.
>> Reply-To: Brian Barkman <brianbarkman@yahoo.ca>
>>
>> Goodmorning,
>>
>> We have 4-5 years of participation in the Kingston Christmas Bird  
>> Count, The Great Backyard Bird Count, and the Project Feeder  
>> Watch, however we have not had a lot of experience with swifts  
>> except for watching them a couple times in Wolfville.
>>
>> I was thinking of Starlings too since I know they are common on  
>> the farm nearby. But the way the birds dropped (similar to a  
>> falling leaf or butterfly fluttering and swaying back and forth  
>> slightly) and the funnel shaped formation made me rule out  
>> Starlings in my mind. I had not realized that some of the swallows  
>> also form large flocks for migration. In that case I am not so  
>> sure if we can successfully rule out swallows. I will see if we  
>> can make it over there today or in the next days, but in case we  
>> can't, I would appreciate if you could notify someone in the area  
>> who would be interested. I don't have contact information for the  
>> people listed in your email.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> From: James W. Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
>> To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca>; Ken McKenna  
>> <kenmcken@eastlink.ca>; Ross & Linda Hall  
>> <ross.hall@ns.sympatico.ca>; Claire Diggins  
>> <claire_diggins@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Ally (Allison) Manthorne <amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org>; Chris Field  
>> <field@mathstat.dal.ca>; brianbarkman@yahoo.ca
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:50:31 PM
>> Subject: Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, Sept. 29/13, evening.
>>
>> Brian, thanks for your note.  I need some more information from  
>> you.  Are you familiar with chimney swifts?  We are so late in the  
>> season for them that any large flock is unlikely, as a guess.  And  
>> please re-check that church on a subsequent evening if possible,  
>> or ask one of the adjoining households, such as Jacquie and Bill  
>> White or the Footes or anybody else who is nearby.  I am tied up  
>> for the next two evenings myself so cannot do it, but I can alert  
>> naturalists in King's County about your sighting.  I would guess  
>> that late swallows or, even more likely, starlings might be what  
>> you saw -- please let me know if you know these other  
>> possibilities can be eliminated.  Thanks again, from Jim in  
>> Wolfville.
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Brian Barkman <brianbarkman@yahoo.ca>
>>> Date: September 29, 2013 8:51:58 PM ADT
>>> To: "jimwolford@eastlink.ca" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
>>> Subject: Chimney Swifts
>>> Reply-To: Brian Barkman <brianbarkman@yahoo.ca>
>>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> I would like to inform you or the Naturalist Society of a bird  
>>> sighting in Kingsport which my wife and I believe to have been a  
>>> group of chimney swifts. We were at the beach near the pier in  
>>> Kingsport today (Sep 29, 2013) when we noticed a large flock (100 
>>> +) of small birds above the trees. They made a couple passes with  
>>> birds disappearing behind the trees with each pass and at 7 pm  
>>> the whole flock disappeared in a funnel formation. After the  
>>> sighting we drove around the block to see if we could find any  
>>> more clues. The birds were no where to be seen or heard. The  
>>> church on Main Street has a chimney which appears to be swift  
>>> friendly. We talked with a few locals that were taking a walk and  
>>> they were not aware of it. We are from Woodville and do not go  
>>> there very often, but we would be very curious to have someone  
>>> confirm it and hopefully take steps to conserve the chimney.  
>>> Please let us know if you find any more information about this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brian Barkman
>>> brianbarkman@yahoo.ca
>>
>>
>>
>
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style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">September 30, 2013 10:13:09 AM =
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#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Nature BNS &lt;<a =
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a</a>&gt;, <a =
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Field &lt;<a =
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"Ally (Allison) Manthorne" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org">amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[ValleyNature] re Chimney Swifts?, =
Kingsport, Sept. 29/13, evening.</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><br></div>  Brian, thanks for the original note =
below as well as your quick response. &nbsp;I think the season is past =
any large flocks of swallows or swifts, and your remarks make me think =
that starlings are much more probable, especially if there is a nearby =
farm building where they can roost for the night (or even under a =
bridge, if there is one nearby) or some other human-made structure that =
they can fly in and out of. &nbsp;There would be a mass emergence in the =
early morning to look for. &nbsp;These notes might stimulate someone in =
the area to be alert for the next few days in =
Kingsport.<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in =
Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Brian Barkman &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;</font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">September 30, 2013 8:02:12 AM =
ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, =
Sept. 29/13, evening.</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Brian =
Barkman &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;</font>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, =
new york, times, =
serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Goodmorning,</div><div><br></div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; =
font-style: normal;">We have 4-5 years of participation in the Kingston =
Christmas Bird Count, The Great Backyard Bird Count, and the Project =
Feeder Watch, however we have not had a lot of experience with swifts =
except for watching them a couple times in =
Wolfville.</div><div><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, =
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I was =
thinking of Starlings too since I know they are common on the farm =
nearby. But the way the birds dropped (similar to a falling leaf or =
butterfly fluttering and swaying back and forth slightly) and the funnel =
shaped formation made me rule out Starlings in my mind. I had not =
realized that some of the swallows also form large flocks for migration. =
In that case I am not so sure if we can successfully rule out swallows. =
I will see if we can make it over there today or in the next days, but =
in case we can't, I would appreciate if you could notify someone in the =
area who would be interested. I don't have contact information for the =
people listed in your email.</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, =
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; =
font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">thanks,</div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; =
font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, =
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;">Brian</div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: 'times =
new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div =
style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> =
James W. Wolford &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;<br> =
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Nature BNS &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca">nature@blomidonnaturalists.c=
a</a>&gt;; Ken McKenna &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;; Ross =
&amp; Linda Hall &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ross.hall@ns.sympatico.ca">ross.hall@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt=
;; Claire Diggins &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:claire_diggins@hotmail.com">claire_diggins@hotmail.com</a>&=
gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Ally =
(Allison) Manthorne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org">amanthorne@bsc-eoc.org</a>&gt;; =
Chris Field &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:field@mathstat.dal.ca">field@mathstat.dal.ca</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a> <br> =
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September =
29, 2013 11:50:31 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Chimney Swifts?, Kingsport, Sept. 29/13, =
evening.<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div =
id=3D"yiv8961957808"><div> Brian, thanks for your note. &nbsp;I need =
some more information from you. &nbsp;Are you familiar with chimney =
swifts? &nbsp;We are so late in the season for them that any large flock =
is unlikely, as a guess. &nbsp;And please re-check that church on a =
subsequent evening if possible, or ask one of the adjoining households, =
such as Jacquie and Bill White or the Footes or anybody else who is =
nearby. &nbsp;I am tied up for the next two evenings myself so cannot do =
it, but I can alert naturalists in King's County about your sighting. =
&nbsp;I would guess that late swallows or, even more likely, starlings =
might be what you saw -- please let me know if you know these other =
possibilities can be eliminated. &nbsp;Thanks again, from Jim in =
Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"yiv8961957808Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica;">Brian Barkman &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;</font>=
</div><div =
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;"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>Date: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica;">September 29, 2013 8:51:58 PM =
ADT</font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>To: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica;">"<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>" =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" =
target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica;"><b>Chimney Swifts</b></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>Reply-To: =
</b></font><font size=3D"3" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica;">Brian Barkman &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;</font>=
</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;min-height:14px;"><br></div> <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', =
'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Hi =
Jim,</div><div><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I would like to =
inform you or the Naturalist Society of a bird sighting in Kingsport =
which my wife and I believe to have been a group of chimney swifts. We =
were at the beach near the pier in Kingsport today (Sep 29, 2013) when =
we noticed a large flock (100+) of small birds above the trees. They =
made a couple passes with birds disappearing behind the trees with each =
pass and at 7 pm the whole flock disappeared in a funnel formation. =
After the sighting we drove around the block to see if we could find any =
more clues. The birds were no where to be seen or heard. The church on =
Main Street has a chimney which appears to be swift friendly. We talked =
with a few locals that were taking a walk and they were not aware of it. =
We are from Woodville and do not go there very often, but we would be =
very curious to have someone confirm it and hopefully take steps to =
conserve the chimney. Please let us know if you find any more =
information about this.</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, =
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; =
font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Thanks,</div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new =
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; =
font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, =
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Brian =
Barkman</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; =
font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:brianbarkman@yahoo.ca">brianbarkman@yahoo.ca</a></div></div=
></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  =
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