[NatureNS] ID help - skeleton on Cape Sable Island

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Humerus. Good one! 

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On 2013-09-23, at 9:03 AM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:

> I assume Blake's suggestion of crocodile was intended to be humerus, however, the tooth sockets do suggest peg-like teeth, similar to reptiles. The size of the animal should suggest "whale" to most people, and given that there are tooth sockets, it is then, by definition, a toothed whale. All of our toothed whales (which I've seen anyway), have peg-like teeth...they have re-acquired this from a terrestrial ancestor which had the mixed bag of teeth characteristic of mammals.
> 
> So, which toothed whale? The snout isn't pointy enough to be a pilot whale (I just ran to the lab to confirm this), and the overall length of the animal suggests to me something a bit bigger. I estimated the length of the animal at over 6 m, using the man's height as 1.7 m (an estimate); Wikipaedia says the males (the larger of the sexes) reach sexual maturity at 4.6 m, but don't give an upper size range.
> 
> That's as far as I can take it. The marine environment is not one of my fortes. 
> 
> Randy
> 
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
> 
> 
> On 23 September 2013 05:55, Angela Joudrey <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>> Can't to read some suggestions! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-09-23, at 5:44 AM, Blake Maybank <bmaybank@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> A friend took three photos this weekend of a skeleton of a vertebrate on Cape Sable Island.  The three photos are here:
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakemaybank/
>>> 
>>> A crocodile, perhaps?  All suggestions welcome.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Blake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Blake Maybank
>>> 144 Bayview Drive,
>>> White's Lake, Nova Scotia
>>> B3T 1Z1 CANADA 
>>> (902) 852-2077
>>> 
>>> My Blog:  CSI: Life
>>> 
>>> Organiser, Maritimes Nature Travel Club
>>> 
>>> Author, "Birding Sites of Nova Scotia
> 

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Humerus. Good one!&nbsp;<br><br>Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div><br>On 2013-09-23, at 9:03 AM, Randy Lauff &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I assume Blake's s=
uggestion of crocodile was intended to be humerus, however, the tooth socket=
s do suggest peg-like teeth, similar to reptiles. The size of the animal sho=
uld suggest "whale" to most people, and given that there are tooth sockets, i=
t is then, by definition, a toothed whale. All of our toothed whales (which I=
've seen anyway), have peg-like teeth...they have re-acquired this from a te=
rrestrial ancestor which had the mixed bag of teeth characteristic of mammal=
s.<div>

<br></div><div>So, which toothed whale? The snout isn't pointy enough to be a=
 pilot whale (I just ran to the lab to confirm this), and the overall length=
 of the animal suggests to me something a bit bigger. I estimated the length=
 of the animal at over 6 m, using the man's height as 1.7 m (an estimate); W=
ikipaedia says the males (the larger of the sexes) reach sexual maturity at 4=
.6 m, but don't give an upper size range.</div>

<div><br></div><div>That's as far as I can take it. The marine environment i=
s not one of my fortes.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>______________________________=
___<br>

RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 23 September 2013 05:55, Angela Joudre=
y <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_=
blank">aljoudrey@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">

<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Can't to read some suggestions!&nbsp;<br><br>Sent fro=
m my iPhone</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 2013-09-23, at 5:44 AM, B=
lake Maybank &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bmaybank@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bma=
ybank@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">A friend t=
ook three photos this weekend of a skeleton of a vertebrate on Cape Sable Is=
land.&nbsp; The three photos are here:<br>

<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakemaybank/" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.flickr.com/photos/blakemaybank/</a><br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">A crocodil=
e, perhaps?&nbsp; All suggestions welcome.<br>



<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large">Cheers,<br><br>Blake<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br><br clear=3D"a=
ll">



</div><br>-- <br><font size=3D"4"><a href=3D"mailto:bmaybank@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Blake Maybank</a><br>144 Bayview Drive,<br>

White's Lake, Nova Scotia<br>

B3T 1Z1 CANADA <br><a href=3D"tel:%28902%29%20852-2077" value=3D"+1902852207=
7" target=3D"_blank">(902) 852-2077</a></font><br>
<font size=3D"4"><br>My Blog:&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://blakemaybank.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank"><b>CSI: Life</b></a><span style=3D"padding-right:16px;width:16=
px;min-height:16px"></span><span style=3D"padding-right:16px;width:16px;min-=
height:16px"></span><span style=3D"padding-right:16px;width:16px;min-height:=
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