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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_18FE_01CEA230.E383F910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve & All, =20 Fernald specifies the chemist L.J. (1778-1850; 'original'). The H of = HBK is Friedrich Wilhelm Heinrich Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859). = =20 Gaylussacia is New World; N & S America. But no doubt was named by = HBK to honor J.L. G-L. Many New World plants and animals were described = by Europeans. Yt, DW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Shaw=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] re names for huckleberry -- was this year's = blueberry and huckleberry crop ? Hi Dave: So it's not named for a descendant, it's for the 'original' = Gay-Lussac, who is sometimes known as J.L. and sometimes L.J.? Is the = first author of your reference the equally or perhaps even more famous = Alexander von Humboldt, explorer-polymath, his contemporary and = colleague? In the early 1800s together they demonstrated that the = composition of the atmosphere did not change with altitude, for = instance. =20 If what has become known as the huckleberry was discovered as a = European genus in the first place by v.H. et al., mutual respect and = friendship could explain how v.H. came to honour G-L in this way, by = naming the genus Gaylussacia. Does this sound correct? Steve =20 On 26-Aug-13, at 4:44 AM, David & Alison Webster wrote: Hi Steve & All, Aug 26, 2013 Yes the genus, delineatd by HBK (Humboldt, Bonpland & Kunth), = was named for Louis Joseph Gay-Lussac according to Fernald. Yt, DW =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Shaw To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] re names for huckleberry -- was this = year's blueberry and huckleberry crop ? An odd genus name, but presumably it's Gaylussacia not Gaylussaica = in the other post, relating somehow to the family name of the famous = French chemist Joseph Gay-Lussac, born in the 1700s and an author of one = of the gas laws. Apparently some of his descendants live in Ontario -- = is that the name connection to the plant, that it was discovered first = and named by, or for, one of them? Steve On 26-Aug-13, at 12:01 PM, James W. Wolford wrote: Gaylussacia baccata and G. dumosa, huckleberry and bog = huckleberry, respectively, in family Ericaceae or heather/heath family. = Jim in Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: From: Dave&Jane Schlosberg <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: August 26, 2013 10:26:25 AM ADT To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] this year's blueberry and huckleberry = crop ? Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Would someone please give me the Latin name for = =93huckleberries=94? I am aware of more than one species that have that = common name. Thanks. Jane From: Henk Kwindt Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:56 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] this year's blueberry and huckleberry = crop ? A few days ago I was looking for huckleberries in Queens = county and there were hardly any. Here in Cow Bay there are lots of blackberries but it is hard = to find ripe ones what I blame on the robbins which seem to be = everywhere this summer, never seen so many here. Of course, the robbins = go where the berries are, but they used to leave lots for me, however = not this summer. Henk Kwindt, Cow Bay, NS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusan Soudek To: NatureNS Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:00 PM Subject: [NatureNS] this year's blueberry and huckleberry = crop ? The wild berry season is upon us, but I am finding very, = very few ripe fruit. I have recently visited some of my favourite berry = spots in or near HRM, but am finding the crop very poor compared to last = year. Particularly so for huckleberries. Any observations from wild = berry pickers elsewhere in the province? Dusan Soudek No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6594 - Release Date: = 08/20/13 ------=_NextPart_000_18FE_01CEA230.E383F910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23515"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Steve & All, = =20 </DIV> <DIV> Fernald specifies the chemist L.J. (1778-1850;=20 'original'). The H of HBK is Friedrich Wilhelm Heinrich Alexander von = Humboldt=20 (1769-1859). </DIV> <DIV> Gaylussacia is New World; N & S America. But = no=20 doubt was named by HBK to honor J.L. G-L. Many New World plants and = animals were=20 described by Europeans.</DIV> <DIV>Yt, DW</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 Steve Shaw = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 26, 2013 = 5:02=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] re = names for=20 huckleberry -- was this year's blueberry and huckleberry crop ?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Dave: So it's not named for a descendant, = it's for=20 the 'original' Gay-Lussac, who is sometimes known as J.L. and = sometimes=20 L.J.? Is the first author of your reference the equally or = perhaps=20 even more famous Alexander von Humboldt, explorer