Dobson Flies: Re: [NatureNS] stoneflies, fireflies and click

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Thanks to all who set me straight on the IDs. I had forgotten completely
about Dobsonflies although I remember my father tying a "hellgrammite" fly
bait for trout fishing in the E Dalhousie area years ago.

Nancy.


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>wrote:

> In the interests of more clarification Dave, in case anyone should be
> interested
> the larvae are known to anglers as Hellgramittes. Reg Baird in his book
> "Living
> With Trout" devotes a chapter to the subject. You might be familiar with
> his uncle Nelson Patterson from the Kentville Research Station who was
> interested
> in the subject and got Regs interested. Reg a man of many talents has
> written the book
> packed with Nova Scotia Natural history but it is little known except
> among anglers.
> He designed a Hellgramite fly featured in the NA fishing press. I found it
> rather
> complicated to make and in desperation while doing a salmon study for DOF
> conjured up a simple version. It done wonders and also got featured in a
> prominant book.
> Anyway Nancy as always started a very interesting topic.
> Paul
>
>    *From:* David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2013 11:30:42 AM
> *Subject:* Dobson Flies: Re: [NatureNS] stoneflies, fireflies and click
> beetles appearing
>
>  Hi Paul & All,                        June 22, 2013
>     By way of clarification, the larvae are aquatic and are super-sized
> fish food.
> DW
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] stoneflies, fireflies and click beetles
> appearing
>
>  Hi Nancy
> Great pictures!
> * I think the stone flies are actually Dobson Flies.*
> *I'm not sure if they are in the same family or another.*
> *Trout and other fish love stone flies but Dobson Flies *
> *stay away from the water so are not very available to fish.*
> *Enjoy the summer*
> *Paul*
> **
>
>   *From:* nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.com>
> *To:* naturens <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:27:21 AM
> *Subject:* [NatureNS] stoneflies, fireflies and click beetles appearing
>
>    The following insects were making their presence obvious during the
> past week for the first time this year at L Torment, E Dalhousie, Kings Co.
> Corrections and more accurate ID are appreciated:
>
> Several of these big (40mm hd to wingtip) Stoneflies (Pteronarcys spp)
> gathered each night at both outside lights. I am not used to seeing large
> Stonefly adults until late August.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528@N08/9105112417/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528@N08/9105128911/
>
> Lots and lots of fireflies (Photinus spp) 13mm long were on the windows,
> deck and woodpile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528@N08/9105160771/
>
> Click Beetles (Elateridae) were everywhere, coming in to the open truck
> windows and shed. Brown, <10mm, ovate, spp unkown. They are fun to watch
> folding themselves lengthwise and flinging off erratically with an audible
> "click". Too jumpy for a good photo. Some who fell into the grate on the
> dash are still clicking away today. Gardeners will be unhappy to know click
> beetle larvae are Wireworms (Audubon Insect Guide).
>
> Nancy
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks to all who set me straight on the IDs. I had f=
orgotten completely about Dobsonflies although I remember my father tying a=
 &quot;hellgrammite&quot; fly bait for trout fishing in the E Dalhousie are=
a years ago.<br>
<br></div>Nancy.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Paul MacDonald <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">paulri=
ta2001@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>In the interests of more=
 clarification Dave, in case anyone should be interested</span></div>
<div><span>the larvae are known to anglers as Hellgramittes. Reg Baird in h=
is book &quot;Living </span></div><div><span>With Trout&quot; devotes a cha=
pter to the subject. You might be familiar with</span></div><div><span>his =
uncle Nelson Patterson from the Kentville Research Station who was interest=
ed</span></div>
<div><span>in the subject and got Regs interested. Reg a man of many talent=
s has written the book</span></div><div><span>packed with Nova Scotia Natur=
al history but it is little known except among anglers.</span></div><div>
<span>He designed a Hellgramite fly featured in the NA fishing press. I fou=
nd it rather</span></div><div><span>complicated to make and in desperation =
while doing a salmon study for
 DOF</span></div><div><span>conjured up a simple <var></var></span><span>ve=
rsion. It done wonders and also got featured in a prominant book.</span></d=
iv><div><span>Anyway Nancy as always started a very interesting topic.</spa=
n></div>
<div><span>Paul</span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:time=
s new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style=3D"font-family=
:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <d=
iv style=3D"margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);mi=
n-height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px" readonly>
</div>  <font face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</sp=
an></b> David &amp; Alison Webster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com=
" target=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" targe=
t=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 22, 20=
13
 11:30:42 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Do=
bson Flies: Re: [NatureNS] stoneflies,
 fireflies and click beetles appearing<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div>

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<div>
<div><font>Hi Paul &amp; All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=20
=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 June=20
22, 2013</font></div>
<div><font>=A0=A0=A0 By way of clarification, the larvae are=20
aquatic and are super-sized fish food. </font></div>
<div><font>DW</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-right:0px;ma=
rgin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px;border-lef=
t-style:solid" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt/normal arial;font-siz=
e-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"paulrita2001@yahoo.com" href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Paul=20
  MacDonald</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:natur=
ens@chebucto.ns.ca" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns=
.ca</a> </div>

  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:46=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] stoneflies,=20
  fireflies and click beetles appearing</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,s=
erif">
  <div><span>Hi Nancy</span></div>
  <div><span>Great pictures!</span></div>
  <div><span><i>=A0I think the stone flies are actually Dobson=20
  Flies.</i></span></div>
  <div><span><i>I&#39;m not sure if they are in the same family or=20
  another.</i></span></div>
  <div><span><i>Trout and other fish love stone flies but Dobson Flies=20
  </i></span></div>
  <div><span><i>stay away from the water so are not very available to=20
  fish.</i></span></div>
  <div><span><i>Enjoy the summer</i></span></div>
  <div><span><i>Paul</i></span></div>
  <div><span><i></i></span>=A0</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:=
12pt">
  <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:=
12pt">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);min-height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px"></div><font face=3D"Arial"><b=
><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> nancy dowd=20
  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nancypdowd@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">nancypdowd@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">T=
o:</span></b> naturens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;=20
  <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 2=
2,=20
  2013 7:27:21 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b=
>=20
  [NatureNS] stoneflies, fireflies and click beetles appearing<br></font></=
div>
  <div><br>
 =20
  <div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div>
  <div>
  <div>
  <div>
  <div>The following insects were making their presence obvious during the =
past=20
  week for the first time this year at L Torment, E Dalhousie, Kings Co.=20
  Corrections and more accurate ID are appreciated:<br><br></div>Several of=
=20
  these big (40mm hd to wingtip) Stoneflies (Pteronarcys spp) gathered each=
=20
  night at both outside lights. I am not used to seeing large Stonefly adul=
ts=20
  until late August.<br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528@N0=
8/9105112417/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/pho=
tos/92981528@N08/9105112417/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos=
/92981528@N08/9105128911/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.fl=
ickr.com/photos/92981528@N08/9105128911/</a><br>
<br></div>Lots=20
  and lots of fireflies (Photinus spp) 13mm long were on the windows, deck =
and=20
  woodpile: <a href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528@N08/9105160771=
/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/92981528=
@N08/9105160771/</a><br></div><br></div>Click=20
  Beetles (Elateridae) were everywhere, coming in to the open truck windows=
 and=20
  shed. Brown, &lt;10mm, ovate, spp unkown. They are fun to watch folding=
=20
  themselves lengthwise and flinging off erratically with an audible &quot;=
click&quot;.=20
  Too jumpy for a good photo. Some who fell into the grate on the dash are =
still=20
  clicking away today. Gardeners will be unhappy to know click beetle larva=
e are=20
  Wireworms (Audubon Insect Guide).<br><br></div>Nancy<br></div></div>

  <br><br></div></div></div></div><a rel=3D"nofollow"></a>
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  Database: 3199/6424 - Release Date: 06/19/13</div></blockquote></div></di=
v><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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