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Index of Subjects --_6be11d09-c8d2-4e42-a92a-36f6ab6db5df_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Again=2C thanks Steve. Your id is correct. It is a Flatheaded Mayfly=2C Art= hroplea bipunctata. I was befuddled=2C I guess=2C after having Dave McCorq.= identifing some of my strange creatures as "Ichs" so I ided this one as an= other Ich. Angus =20 =20 > Date: Mon=2C 27 May 2013 11:48:04 -0300 > From: srshaw@Dal.Ca > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Fly Photos >=20 > Quoting Angus MacLean <cold_mac@hotmail.com>: > > Hi Stephen & thanks for the ids & corrections. > > > > When I checked out what the viewer is able to see on my wife's=20 > > computer=2C I was surprised. So limited! > > > > Thumbnail views are not easy to find but I can send a second link to=20 > > everyone that shows something similar: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/ > > > > If you have a normal size screen you should see three photos across=20 > > (with my 22" screen I can see four). Then you can continue to scroll=20 > > down to see the rest of the pics from the most recent to the=20 > > earliest. You can also do a single click on a pic to see it in=20 > > larger size & also see my comments & the comments of others. > > > > Then click the back arrow to return. > > > > Is this the photo you thought was a mayfly? > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/8707923635/ > > Angus >=20 > Yes=2C but really just guessing. The abdomen looks twisted but it is=20 > still colored=2C so presumably recently deceased. There appear to be=20 > only 2 'tails' (caudal filaments=2C sort of rear-facing antennae)=2C when= =20 > I think mayflies usually (always?) have 3=2C so that might say stonefly= =2C=20 > which do have 2 (Plecoptera). On the other hand the caudal filaments=20 > are fragile and often break off=2C and there looks like a break in one=20 > in the picture=2C so maybe there once were 3? You'd expect a single=20 > ovipositor in an ichneumon and more of a 'waist'=2C but I suppose if it=20 > was dead the sheath on the ovipositor might have become displaced=2C so=20 > you could be right on the ID. Exotic wing venation looks more typical=20 > of a 'lower' insect group than a hymenopteran=2C though=2C and mayflies=20 > are next but one to the bottom of the winged insect tree. > You need someone authoritative on this one (=3D not me) -- perhaps Dave=20 > McC in Cape Breton U could offer a better judgment if he's reading this. > Steve > > > > > >> From: srshaw@DAL.CA > >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Fly Photos > >> > >> Hi Angus=2C > >> Very nice photos=2C as usual. I'm not good at general fly IDs and rely > >> on BugGuide.net=2C but can recognize a few=2C and agree with some of y= our > >> IDs -- you are good at syrphids. Some suggested revisions: > >> > >> --#3 is definitely not a wood gnat (Anisopodidae)=2C it's a rhagionid= =2C > >> Rhagio mystaceus=2C like #9 (this one is a certainly a male -- eyes me= et > >> at the top of the head -- not in females). > >> --#11=2C 'Machimus'=2C agreed=2C it is a small robber fly=2C but is th= e common > >> Dioctria hyalopennis=2C a female by the shape of the abdomen=2C though > >> that's out of the plane of focus. Bev Wigney had a great pic of one on > >> her site=2C Magiccanoe or some similar name. > >> --'Lucilia a blowfly'=2C appears to be a blowfly=2C but more likely is= a > >> Calliphora species=2C male. It appears in your series twice=2C at > >> 8789077462 & 8617225129. > >> --Fruit fly unknown (small pic=2C 8785130892) looks like another=2C > >> smaller common rhagionid=2C Rhagio gracilis=3B the abdominal shape say= s > >> this is a male. Seems too orange-tinted though in this pic=2C always > >> pale pale yellow in my experience. > >> --Lucilia halteres (white bits) are not the halteres (all flies have > >> those but not visible here)=2C but are a small accessory wing lobe or > >> calypter=2C present in 'calyptrate' flies. > >> -- I stopped looking soon after this=2C but a rather dishevelled looki= ng > >> ichneumon further on looks more like a mayfly. > >> > >> The right arrow does show up on Firefox/Mac in my case=2C but I wish > >> Flickr had an accessible thumbnail page view so that you could skip > >> around easily. I think maybe it still does have but I didn't sign in > >> to check this. > >> Steve=2C Halifax > >> > >> Quoting Angus MacLean <cold_mac@hotmail.com>: > >> I've just noted that the right hand arrow does not show up for those > >> wishing to view the next image. Just use the right arrow on the > >> keyboard. (there are lots of complaints about the changes in Flickr > >> but no one mentioned this one?). > >> > > >> > There are a number of fly experts on this listserver so I would > >> > appreciate your input. (It's awkward to have incorrectly identified > >> > creatures on one's site). > >> > > >> > Thanks=2C Angus > >> > > >> > - - -- -- - - - - -- - - -- -- - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - = - - - > >> > I have posted about 35 photos of flies to my Flickr site. They > >> > include many types of flies. (For those that expressed concern there > >> > are no photos of spiders!!). They can be viewed at: > >> > > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/8828901560/ > >> > > >> > As a whole=2C Flickr sites have been extensively revised. The means = of > >> > moving to the next image is now similar to other photo sites. > >> >=20 = --_6be11d09-c8d2-4e42-a92a-36f6ab6db5df_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 12pt=3B font-family:Calibri } --></style></head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Again=2C thanks Steve. Your id i= s correct. It is a Flatheaded Mayfly=2C Arthroplea bipunctata. =3BI was= befuddled=2C I guess=2C after having Dave McCorq. identifing some of my st= range creatures as "Ichs" so I ided =3Bthis one as another Ich.<BR> Angus<BR>  =3B<BR> =3B<BR> <DIV>>=3B Date: Mon=2C 27 May 2013 11:48:04 -0300<BR>>=3B From: srshaw@= Dal.Ca<BR>>=3B To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>>=3B Subject: Re: [Nature= NS] RE: Fly Photos<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B Quoting Angus MacLean <=3Bcold_ma= c@hotmail.com>=3B:<BR>>=3B >=3B Hi Stephen &=3B thanks for the ids= &=3B corrections.<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B When I checked out = what the viewer is able to see on my wife's <BR>>=3B >=3B computer=2C I= was surprised. So limited!<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B Thumbnail vie= ws are not easy to find but I can send a second link to <BR>>=3B >=3B e= veryone that shows something similar:<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B htt= p://www.flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B I= f you have a normal size screen you should see three photos across <BR>>= =3B >=3B (with my 22" screen I can see four). Then you can continue to sc= roll <BR>>=3B >=3B down to see the rest of the pics from the most recen= t to the <BR>>=3B >=3B earliest. You can also do a single click on a pi= c to see it in <BR>>=3B >=3B larger size &=3B also see my comments &= amp=3B the comments of others.<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B Then click= the back arrow to return.<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B Is this the ph= oto you thought was a mayfly?<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B http://www.= flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/8707923635/<BR>>=3B >=3B Angus<BR>>=3B= <BR>>=3B Yes=2C but really just guessing. The abdomen looks twisted but = it is <BR>>=3B still colored=2C so presumably recently deceased. There ap= pear to be <BR>>=3B only 2 'tails' (caudal filaments=2C sort of rear-faci= ng antennae)=2C when <BR>>=3B I think mayflies usually (always?) have 3= =2C so that might say stonefly=2C <BR>>=3B which do have 2 (Plecoptera). = On the other hand the caudal filaments <BR>>=3B are fragile and often bre= ak off=2C and there looks like a break in one <BR>>=3B in the picture=2C = so maybe there once were 3? You'd expect a single <BR>>=3B ovipositor in = an ichneumon and more of a 'waist'=2C but I suppose if it <BR>>=3B was de= ad the sheath on the ovipositor might have become displaced=2C so <BR>>= =3B you could be right on the ID. Exotic wing venation looks more typical <= BR>>=3B of a 'lower' insect group than a hymenopteran=2C though=2C and ma= yflies <BR>>=3B are next but one to the bottom of the winged insect tree.= <BR>>=3B You need someone authoritative on this one (=3D not me) -- perha= ps Dave <BR>>=3B McC in Cape Breton U could offer a better judgment if he= 's reading this.<BR>>=3B Steve<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B<BR>>= =3B >=3B>=3B From: srshaw@DAL.CA<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B To: naturens@ch= ebucto.ns.ca<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Fly Photos<= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Hi Angus=2C<BR>>=3B >=3B&= gt=3B Very nice photos=2C as usual. I'm not good at general fly IDs and rel= y<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B on BugGuide.net=2C but can recognize a few=2C and = agree with some of your<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B IDs -- you are good at syrph= ids. Some suggested revisions:<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>= =3B --#3 is definitely not a wood gnat (Anisopodidae)=2C it's a rhagionid= =2C<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Rhagio mystaceus=2C like #9 (this one is a certa= inly a male -- eyes meet<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B at the top of the head -- n= ot in females).<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B --#11=2C 'Machimus'=2C agreed=2C it = is a small robber fly=2C but is the common<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Dioctria = hyalopennis=2C a female by the shape of the abdomen=2C though<BR>>=3B >= =3B>=3B that's out of the plane of focus. Bev Wigney had a great pic of o= ne on<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B her site=2C Magiccanoe or some similar name.<B= R>>=3B >=3B>=3B --'Lucilia a blowfly'=2C appears to be a blowfly=2C b= ut more likely is a<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Calliphora species=2C male. It a= ppears in your series twice=2C at<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B 8789077462 &=3B= 8617225129.<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B --Fruit fly unknown (small pic=2C 87851= 30892) looks like another=2C<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B smaller common rhagioni= d=2C Rhagio gracilis=3B the abdominal shape says<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B thi= s is a male. Seems too orange-tinted though in this pic=2C always<BR>>=3B= >=3B>=3B pale pale yellow in my experience.<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B --L= ucilia halteres (white bits) are not the halteres (all flies have<BR>>=3B= >=3B>=3B those but not visible here)=2C but are a small accessory wing= lobe or<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B calypter=2C present in 'calyptrate' flies.<= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B -- I stopped looking soon after this=2C but a rather= dishevelled looking<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B ichneumon further on looks more= like a mayfly.<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B The right arr= ow does show up on Firefox/Mac in my case=2C but I wish<BR>>=3B >=3B>= =3B Flickr had an accessible thumbnail page view so that you could skip<BR>= >=3B >=3B>=3B around easily. I think maybe it still does have but I d= idn't sign in<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B to check this.<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B = Steve=2C Halifax<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B Quoting Angu= s MacLean <=3Bcold_mac@hotmail.com>=3B:<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B I've jus= t noted that the right hand arrow does not show up for those<BR>>=3B >= =3B>=3B wishing to view the next image. Just use the right arrow on the<B= R>>=3B >=3B>=3B keyboard. (there are lots of complaints about the cha= nges in Flickr<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B but no one mentioned this one?).<BR>&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B There are a number = of fly experts on this listserver so I would<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B = appreciate your input. (It's awkward to have incorrectly identified<BR>>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B creatures on one's site).<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Thanks=2C Angus<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B - - -- -- - - - - -- - - -- -- - - - - = - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - -<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B I have pos= ted about 35 photos of flies to my Flickr site. They<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B= >=3B include many types of flies. (For those that expressed concern ther= e<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B are no photos of spiders!!). They can be vi= ewed at:<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http:/= /www.flickr.com/photos/58321572@N00/8828901560/<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B As a whole=2C Flickr sites have been exte= nsively revised. The means of<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B moving to the n= ext image is now similar to other photo sites.<BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B<BR>&g= t=3B <BR></DIV> </div></body> </html>= --_6be11d09-c8d2-4e42-a92a-36f6ab6db5df_--
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