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>>> _____________________________ ---503442473-772272731-1366210731=:63634 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ron; =A0 Scott's comments/concerns have been expressed to me before in regards to th= e BBS data we gather.=A0 Cindy Staicer, from whom I took an Ornithology cou= rse at Dalhousie, believed that the birds singing on a BBS route in June we= re unpaired birds and therefore could not be used to give an indication of = how many birds were breeding on that route.=A0 It certainly made sense - bu= t raised a lot of questions in my mind, such as: if a lot of birds are sing= ing on territory, does that mean they were attracted there because it was g= ood breeding habitat?=A0 other birds of the same species are nesting fairly= close by?=A0 the singing birds found an abandoned nest site and were hopin= g to use it?=A0 There's no sure=A0way to answer these questions but it woul= d seem that a lot of birds singing in one area would be an indication of a = fair amount of breeding success even if it weren't those particular individ= uals who were doing the breeding. =A0 Since all these surveys are meant to show indications rather than exact res= ults (there's no way to say exactly how many birds are present when you onl= y spend a proscribed number of minutes at each stop) then perhaps BSC (and = Cornell and Audubon) is way ahead of us on this? =A0 Cheers; Suzanne =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --- On Wed, 4/17/13, Ronald Arsenault <rongarsenault@gmail.com> wrote: From: Ronald Arsenault <rongarsenault@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Lapland/Laconia Owl Monitoring Route To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Received: Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 9:10 AM Hello Patricia, Very interesting question and one to which I do not know the answer. =A0I s= hould also point out that the sentence which prompted your question was my = interpretation of what Scott had said, so I will attempt to clarify. =A0Ple= ase note that this is based on a=A0conversation=A0which happened three to f= our years ago. As I recall, Scott found during his monitoring that owls were less vocal wh= en tending nests with eggs or young than was the case during years when the= y did not nest or the nesting was not successful. His concern was that the = results of the owl survey were being (or would be) interpreted as "more cal= ls =3D more birds", which his monitoring showed was not the case. At the time, his intent was to discuss his findings with Bird Studies Canad= a to make them aware of his concern. I do not know what eventually happened= . =A0Perhaps the "silent listening" was implemented as a result? I do not recall Scott going into detail re owl behaviours that would explai= n this. =A0I would suggest though, that there are a number of factors which= are likely to affect the calling rate, including the response rate to play= back, of owls. However, I would not expect complete suppression except for = cases of severe starvation. =A0Some factors which likely affect the calling= rate of owls (with or without stimulation by playback) are: =A0timing - ho= w far into the nesting season are the owls when the survey is done; whether= or not the bird is paired - single birds would be more motivated to call; = prey density - more time needed to catch enough prey =3D less time for call= ing; distance from nest - the closer the playback to the nest, the likelier= the response; density of the owl population could even play a role; perhap= s even the age of the birds could also be a factor - well established pair = vs first time nesters?. These are just some of the factors which come to mind, and of course, these are not necessarily independent of each other. = =A0Perhaps others (Randy?) can add to or correct the above. Hope this helps, Ron On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:56 PM, P.L. Chalmers <plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca= > wrote: Hi Ron, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0This is an interesting observation.=A0 But it leave= s me with a question.=A0 Are "owls which have settled down with nesting dut= ies" less likely to call AT ALL, or just less likely to respond to a record= ing?=A0 The ":silent listening" portion of the survey, which is the first p= art, preceding the broadcast of recorded calls, is considered the most sign= ificant part of the survey, I believe. {In some parts of the country the of= ficial survey protocol doesn't use broadcast calls at all.)=A0=A0 So are ow= ls which are freely calling, i.e. when unprovoked, more likely to be unsucc= essful breeders than those who remain silent? =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Suzanne Borkowski and I usually detect many of the= owls we find during those first two minutes of the survey; if they react t= o the broadcast calls later, it gives us more time to confirm distance and = direction etc.=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Cheers, =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Patricia L. Chalmers =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Halifax =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 At 02:16 PM 16/04/2013, you wrote: Hello Randy, This may in fact be good news.=A0 Scott Makepeace, NB Dept. Nat. Resources = biologist who monitors owls, told me that his work has revealed that the re= sponse rate of owls is actually inversely related to their nesting success,= especially with Barred Owls, if I remember correctly.=A0 In other words, o= wls which have settled down with nesting duties are much less likely to res= pond to a taped call than are owls who are either looking for a mate or who= se nesting attempt has failed. Hope this cheers you up! Ron On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote: Krista and I did the Fairmont (Ant. Coi.) route last night. Frogs were bare= ly an issue as it was about -3 oC the whole time. Three or four years ago, = I got a dozen (?) or so Barreds, GHOW and S'whets. Last year, skunked. This= year, under similarly ideal conditions as last year...skunked. Very perple= xing. Randy _________________________________ RF Lauff Way in the boonies of Antigonish County, NS. On 16 April 2013 01:13, James Hirtle <jrhbirder@hotmail.com> wrote: An interesting evening for running this route with owls on 8 out of 10 stop= s.=A0=A0 We missed out on owls interestingly on two of the stops that we us= ually get them.=A0 One of these stops now has a trailer at the location, so= that could be the reason.=A0 The other stop we always have wood frogs and = spring peepers so loud that it is unbelievable,=A0 but by that point the te= mperature had dropped to around freezing.=A0 Wood frogs and spring peepers = were at the first five stops and I suspect we would have heard them on all = stops had the temperature not dropped.=A0 As the temperature dropped the ow= ls seemed to become less vocal.=A0 I don't know if any studies have been do= ne in respects to this observation or not.=A0 In all we had 10 barred owls.= =A0 Most of the owls all except for the first stop where there were three, = two of which were seen, were all more distant than is the norm on this rout= e.=A0=20 =A0 James R. Hirtle Bridgewater --=20 Ronald G. Arsenault