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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CE3868.67B6F1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mary & All, Apr 12, 2013 Well, for soils to contain 75 % of the carbon pool on land I think = one would have to include all of the peat, permafrost and muck deposits = within this inflated definition of soil and if the figure is valid at = all I suspect this summation of all non-mineral terrestrial carbon was = the basis for it. But if you define soil in the usual sense as being = that thin layer of earth which supports vascular plant life then the = figure would be smaller. I can obtain a first approximation from my Forest Soils text (Lutz & = Chandler 1946) in which (p. 180) typical ranges of total OM of two mor = and two mull soils is given as 271-081 to 554,450 and 222,627 to 515,231 = for mor and mull respectively. These totals would include unincorporated = OM (mostly litter) which 'typically' range from 30,000-60,000 lb/acre.=20 Combining mor & mull and rounding the range of total OM would yield = 250,000 to 500,000 lb/acre. Because 1 lb/acre=3D 1.12 kg/ha these units = are interchangeable for a rough estimate but OM must be converted to = carbon so why not use the 1.12 factor as well ? Using OMx0.58 =3D = carbon, the range for carbon then becomes (250,000 to 500,000) X 0 58 X 1,12 =3D 162,400 to 324,800 kg = carbon/ha. And this conveniently rounds to 16 to 32 kg C/m^2. It will be = a skinny forest that has only 5.3-10.7 kg C/m^2. Figure 1.5 in Jenny (The Soil Resource) gives a direct breakdown in = kg C for one site; Vert 1527, Roots 456, forest floor 256 and mineral = soil 998 for a 117 m^2 sample area. This leads to 31% C in mineral soil, = 39% in FF+ MS and 17 kg C/m^2 of Vert + roots.=20 .=20 For the purposes of worrying about soil organic matter lost due to = clear cutting only the surface layers would normally count i.e. litter = and organic layer. These upper layers are vulnerable because they are = exposed to direct sunlight which leads locally to high temperatures.=20 Consequently one should retain shade if possible and two ways come = to mind; removal of no more than 1/3 of the crown area at any one time = or if this is not feasible because e.g. 3/4 of the trees are dead, = establishment of a (gasp) catch crop. Excessive loss of both nitrogen = and carbon from clear cuts might be largely avoided, I think, by timely = establishment of a catch crop of say annual ryegrass, winter wheat, = fireweed and/or goldenrod; whatever fits the site, time of cut....=20 But, I hasten to add (after many paragraphs), I am not a fan of = clear cuts or industrial scale forestry. In addition, clear cuts, if = sufficiently small, and industrial forestry, if carried out with care, = need not lead to environmental degradation. But most importantly, use of = wood as an energy source need not involve either.=20 It is all a matter of choices and political will. Wood has the = potential to be a nearly carbon neutral source of energy, especially if = compared to coal, oil or natural gas. Why not find acceptable ways to = exploit this potential and leave more fossil fuel undisturbed ? The power of political will is nicely illustrated on pp. 46-47 of = the March 2013 National Geographic; fracked petrochemical wells in the = Baaken Shale Formation as thick as hair on a dog's back. This looks = suspiciously like tax write-offs at work. Otherwise how can one account = for such a frenzy of development ? Some decades ago in Canada, any = profitable Petrochemical company, as I recall, could get about $1,50 in = tax relief for every dollar spent on exploration and development. I = wonder what it is now in the USA (but not enough to read confusing = income tax regulations, especially in mid-April) ? In Switzerland, alpine farmers are paid a modest wage for taking = care of forests that protect down-slope settlements from avalanches. Why = not use tax dollars here to enable extraction of wood for energy, by ox = team and elbow grease, and therby defend our woodlands, to some extent, = from the ravages of climate change ? Just one further thought before I leave this. Only about 30% (35 ?) = of the energy from combustion of any fuel can be converted to = electricity so there is substantial waste heat. To make the most of any = fuel source, the power plants should ideally be near or in = residential/commercial areas so the waste heat can be used for = space/water heating, heating greenhouses or stored underground for later = use.=20 =20 Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mary Macaulay=20 To: Nature Nova Scotia=20 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Forest Biomass burning environmental lunacy The Ecological Society of America is where I got the stat Dousek: =20 Here is the quote and the link: =20 Carbon is found in all living organisms and is the major building = block for life on Earth. Carbon exists in many forms, predominately as = plant biomass, soil organic matter, and as the gas carbon dioxide = (CO2)in the atmosphere and dissolved in seawater. Carbon sequestration = is the longterm storage of carbon in oceans, soils, vegetation (especially forests), = and geologic formations. Although oceans store most of the Earth=92s = carbon, soils contain approximately 75% of the carbon pool on land =97 = three times more than the amount stored in living plants and animals. = Therefore, soils play a major role in maintaining a balanced global = carbon cycle. =20 = http://www.esa.org/education_diversity/pdfDocs/carbonsequestrationinsoils= .pdf =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:50:55 -0300 From: soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Forest Biomass burning environmental lunacy Mary,=20 just curious about that suspiciously round 75 % figure. Is that = true for all vegetation types? Here in N.S. the soil is incredibly thin. = What is the source of the 75 % figure? With thanks,=20 Dusan Soudek=20 =20 ---------- Original Message ----------=20 From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Date: April 11, 2013 at 7:56 AM=20 Subject: [NatureNS] Forest Biomass burning environmental lunacy=20 75% of the carbon stored on land is in the soil Dave. The richest = deepest soils are under an old growth forest. A healthy forest canopy = continues to feed that soil and protects it from erosion and oxidation. = So .. the arguments against Industrial forestry are clear cut...=20 Mary Macaulay, P.Eng.=20 Executive Director=20 Atlantic Concrete Association=20 www.atlanticconcrete.ca=20 Office: 902-443-4456=20 Cell: 902-489-2000=20 Fax: 902-404-8074=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6236 - Release Date: = 04/10/13 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CE3868.67B6F1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <STYLE>.hmmessage P { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } </STYLE> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19412"></HEAD> <BODY class=3Dhmmessage bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi Mary & All, =20 = =20 Apr 12, 2013</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Well, for soils to=20 contain 75 % of the carbon pool on land I think one would have to = include=20 all of the peat, permafrost and muck deposits within this = inflated=20 definition of soil and if the figure is valid at all I suspect this = summation of=20 all non-mineral terrestrial carbon was the basis for it. But if you = define=20 soil in the usual sense as being that thin layer of = earth which=20 supports vascular plant life then the figure would be=20 smaller.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> I can obtain a = first=20 approximation from my Forest Soils text (Lutz & Chandler 1946) in = which (p.=20 180) typical ranges of total OM of two mor and two mull soils is = given as=20 271-081 to 554,450 and 222,627 to 515,231 for mor and mull respectively. = These=20 totals would include unincorporated OM (mostly litter) which 'typically' = range=20 from 30,000-60,000 lb/acre. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Combining mor & = mull and=20 rounding the range of total OM would yield 250,000 to 500,000 = lb/acre.=20 Because 1 lb/acre=3D 1.12 kg/ha these units are interchangeable for a = rough=20 estimate but OM must be converted to carbon so why not use the 1.12 = factor as=20 well ? Using OMx0.58 =3D carbon, the range for carbon then=20 becomes</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>(250,000 to 500,000) = X 0 58 X=20 1,12 =3D 162,400 to 324,800 kg carbon/ha. And this = conveniently rounds=20 to 16 to 32 kg C/m^2. It will be a skinny forest that has only 5.3-10.7 = kg=20 C/m^2.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Figure = 1.5 in Jenny=20 (The Soil Resource) gives a direct breakdown in kg C for one site; Vert = 1527,=20 Roots 456, forest floor 256 and mineral soil 998 for a 117 m^2 sample = area. This=20 leads to 31% C in mineral soil, 39% in FF+ MS and 17 kg C/m^2 of = Vert +=20 roots. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> . </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> For the purposes of = worrying=20 about soil organic matter lost due to clear cutting only the surface = layers=20 would normally count i.e. litter and organic layer. These upper layers=20 are vulnerable because they are exposed to = direct sunlight=20 which leads locally to high temperatures. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Consequently one = should retain=20 shade if possible and two ways come to mind; removal of no more than 1/3 = of the=20 crown area at any one time or if this is not feasible because e.g. 3/4 = of the=20 trees are dead, establishment of a (gasp) catch crop. Excessive loss of = both=20 nitrogen and carbon from clear cuts might be largely avoided, I = think, by=20 timely establishment of a catch crop of say annual ryegrass, winter = wheat,=20 fireweed and/or goldenrod; whatever fits the site, time of cut.... = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> But, I hasten to add = (after many=20 paragraphs), I am not a fan of clear cuts or industrial scale = forestry. In=20 addition, clear cuts, if sufficiently small, and industrial forestry, if = carried=20 out with care, need not lead to environmental degradation. But most = importantly,=20 use of wood as an energy source need not involve either. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> It is all a matter = of choices=20 and political will. Wood has the potential to be a nearly carbon neutral = source=20 of energy, especially if compared to coal, oil or natural gas. Why not = find=20 acceptable ways to exploit this potential and leave more fossil fuel = undisturbed=20 ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> The power = of=20 political will is nicely illustrated on pp. 46-47 of the March 2013 = National=20 Geographic; fracked petrochemical wells in the Baaken Shale Formation as = thick=20 as hair on a dog's back. This looks suspiciously like tax = write-offs=20 at work. Otherwise how can one account for such a frenzy of development=20 ? Some decades ago in Canada, any profitable Petrochemical company, = as I=20 recall, could get about $1,50 in tax relief for every dollar spent on=20 exploration and development. I wonder what it is now in the USA (but not = enough=20 to read confusing income tax regulations, especially in mid-April)=20 ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> In Switzerland, = alpine farmers=20 are paid a modest wage for taking care of forests that protect = down-slope settlements from avalanches. Why not use tax dollars here to = enable=20 extraction of wood for energy, by ox team and elbow grease, and therby = defend=20 our woodlands, to some extent, from the ravages of climate change=20 ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Just one further = thought before=20 I leave this. Only about 30% (35 ?) of the energy from combustion of any = fuel=20 can be converted to electricity so there is substantial waste heat. To = make the=20 most of any fuel source, the power plants should ideally be near or = in=20 residential/commercial areas so the waste heat can be used for = space/water=20 heating, heating greenhouses or stored underground for later use. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> Yt, Dave Webster,=20 Kentville</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmarymacaulay@hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">Mary=20 Macaulay</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">Nature Nova Scotia</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 11, 2013 = 1:16=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NatureNS] Forest = Biomass=20 burning environmental lunacy</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT><FONT size=3D2 = face=3DArial></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr>The Ecological Society of America is where I got the = stat=20 Dousek:<BR> <BR>Here is the quote and the = link:<BR> <BR><FONT size=3D3=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial> <P align=3Dleft>Carbon is found in all living organisms and is the = major=20 building block for life on Earth. Carbon exists in many forms, = predominately=20 as plant biomass, soil organic matter, and as the gas carbon dioxide=20 (CO2)</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3 = face=3DArial>in the=20 atmosphere and dissolved in seawater. </FONT></FONT><B><FONT size=3D3=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial>Carbon sequestration=20 </FONT></FONT></B><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3=20 face=3DArial></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3 = face=3DArial>is=20 the longterm</FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D3=20 face=3DArial>storage of carbon in oceans, soils, vegetation = (especially=20 forests), and geologic formations. Although oceans store most of the = Earth=92s=20 carbon, soils contain approximately 75% of the carbon pool on land =97 = three=20 times more than the amount stored in living plants and animals. = Therefore,=20 soils play a major role in maintaining a balanced global carbon=20 cycle.<BR></FONT></FONT> <BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.esa.org/education_diversity/pdfDocs/carbonsequestratio= ninsoils.pdf"=20 = saprocessedanchor=3D"true">http://www.esa.org/education_diversity/pdfDocs= /carbonsequestrationinsoils.pdf</A><BR> <BR> <DIV> <DIV id=3DSkyDrivePlaceholder></DIV> <HR id=3DstopSpelling> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:50:55 -0300<BR>From: = soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca<BR>To:=20 naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Forest Biomass = burning=20 environmental lunacy<BR><BR> <DIV>Mary, </DIV> <DIV> just curious about that suspiciously round 75 = %=20 figure. Is that true for all vegetation types? Here in N.S. = the soil is=20 incredibly thin. What is the source of the 75 % figure? With = thanks,=20 </DIV> <DIV>Dusan Soudek </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR>---------- Original Message ---------- <BR>From: Mary = Macaulay=20 <marymacaulay@hotmail.com> <BR>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca = <BR>Date:=20 April 11, 2013 at 7:56 AM </DIV> <DIV><BR>Subject: [NatureNS] Forest Biomass burning environmental = lunacy=20 </DIV> <DIV><BR>75% of the carbon stored on land is in the soil Dave. The = richest=20 deepest soils are under an old growth forest. A healthy forest canopy=20 continues to feed that soil and protects it from erosion and = oxidation. So ..=20 the arguments against Industrial forestry are clear cut... = <BR><BR>Mary=20 Macaulay, P.Eng. <BR>Executive Director <BR>Atlantic Concrete = Association=20 <BR>www.atlanticconcrete.ca <BR>Office: 902-443-4456 <BR>Cell: = 902-489-2000=20 <BR>Fax: 902-404-8074 </DIV></DIV></DIV><A></A> <P align=3Dleft avgcert?? color=3D"#000000">No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2013.0.3272 / = Virus=20 Database: 3162/6236 - Release Date: = 04/10/13</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CE3868.67B6F1C0--
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