[NatureNS] Todays Walk

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Hi DaveThanks for the info - an interesting subject worthy of a museum.
Another possibility has been forwarded from a man who has lived a long time=
 in the area.He says there is a deposit of yellow ochre somewhere near by. =
This was used in the natural state mixed with oil for paint but for red och=
re the yellow needed to be heated in a kiln. Red=A0was also mixed with oil =
for paint and both were used extensively in the area. Yellow ochre had to b=
e dried before it was mixed but I guess the sun would do that but a kiln mi=
ght have helped.When the snow goes more details might revel themselves.Have=
 a nice winterPaul


--- On Thu, 2/28/13, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Todays Walk
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Received: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 8:02 AM

=0A=0A =0A =0A=0AHi Paul & All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =
=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Feb 28, 2013=0AThanks Paul. That=
 would be Martins River and just about on the county =0Aline.=0A=A0=0A=A0=
=A0=A0=A0I agree that it does not look like a =0Agood=A0location for a ligh=
thouse so a lime kiln sounds likely but it is hard =0Ato see why it would b=
e so far from navigable water. =A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 I don't know the histo=
rical details of lime =0Akiln use=A0but logically, limestone would be the m=
aterial of choice for =0Atransport from quarry to near a point of use; quic=
klime is very caustic, slaked =0Alime is caustic and both will be=A0lessene=
d in effectiveness=A0by exposure =0Ato air.=0A=A0=0A=A0One would have to he=
at the limestone rocks red hot for =0Ahours and would want to avoid ashes i=
n the final product so, again logically, =0Athere would be an iron grid ont=
o which the stones were piled and fire maintained =0Abelow as necessary. Th=
is would account for the 'walk way'; a way to maintain the =0Afire. The sto=
nes are cooked when the largest stones crush readily. This would be =0Aa di=
fficult test when the stones were red hot so experience would be the =0Agui=
de.=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 The initial product, quicklime, was used =0Afor prepa=
ration of plaster (along with hair from short-tailed horses) and other =0Am=
aterials such as=A0sharp sand and=A0 Plaster of Paris when available. =0AAl=
so for lime mortar I think; used not only with rocks & bricks but with =0Aw=
ood to build walls. =0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 [I recall, as a preschool kid,. bein=
g very =0Aimpressed that lumps of something, carefully added to a barrel co=
ntaining water, =0Acould bring the water to a boil !]=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0 Qui=
cklime lumps, gradually exposed to water =0Abut not Carbon Dioxide, will fo=
rm hydrated or slaked lime which is also what you =0Aget when quicklime is =
added to water. =A0=0A=A0=0AYT, Dave Webster, Kentville=0A----- Original Me=
ssage ----- =0A=0A  From: =0A  Paul =0A  MacDonald =0A  To: naturens@chebuc=
to.ns.ca =0A  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:56 =0A  AM=0A  Subject: R=
e: [NatureNS] Todays Walk=0A =20
=0A  =0A    =0A    =0A      Hi Dave=0A        Coordinates are 44 29 228 by =
64 20 086 with the elev 21 m.=0A        I wouldn't rule out a lighthouse as=
 it is at the top of an inlet - =0A        most things on the=0A        rai=
lway are in this part of the world but it would not have been a =0A        =
very useful lighthouse.=0A        We use to call lighthouses so positioned =
as range lights and were =0A        useful for fishing.=0A        As in go =
to a line between A and B and open out the range light! =0A        Make a s=
et there!=0A        Not as accurate as GPS but a lot of fish were so caught=
.=0A        In discussion with a friend he opinioned that it might be a lim=
e =0A        kilm.=0A        I'm not sure if they used lime stone or bones =
for feed or perhaps =0A        either to produce mortar lime for use in mak=
ing stone cellars, chimneys =0A        and so on. They were placed near the=
 water because the feed often came =0A        by boat. Slacked lime seems t=
o ring a =A0bell. There is another one =0A        around on a point in the =
bay. You might know more about this than I. or =0A        perhaps someone c=
an fill us in on the process.=A0=0A        An interesting spot nevertheless=
 !=0A        Paul=0A       =20
=0A       =20

--- On Wed, 2/27/13, David & Alison Webster =0A        <dwebster@glinx.com>=
 wrote:
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From: =0A          David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
Subject: Re: =0A          [NatureNS] Todays Walk
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Received: =0A          Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 4:33 PM

=0A          =0A          =0A=0A          =0A          Hi Paul,=A0=A0=A0 =
=A0=A0=A0 =0A          =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A          =A0=A0=A0=
 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Feb 27, =0A          2013=0A          =A0=A0=A0 Can yo=
u give exact or approximate =0A          Google coordinates for this rock s=
tructure ? Is it close enough to the =0A          coast to have been the fo=
undation of a lighthouse ?=0A          Yt, DW=0A          =0A            --=
--- Original Message ----- =0A            From: Paul =0A            MacDona=
ld =0A            To: Nature NS =0A            =0A            Sent: Wednesd=
ay, February 27, =0A            2013 5:56 PM=0A            Subject: [Nature=
NS] Todays =0A            Walk=0A           =20
=0A            =0A              =0A              =0A                =0A    =
              =0A                  =0A                    =0A              =
      =0A                      Hi All =0A                        In the gro=
ve was an old stone foundation or well =0A                        casing. I=
t was about=0A                        2 m in diameter and had a walk way in=
to it. The =0A                        stone rose up about 1 m above the loc=
al=A0=0A                        ground, As there was snow on the ground the=
 area =0A                        wasn't visible. The rock work was=0A      =
                  well done - no mortar - just the stones properly =0A     =
                   placed. Someone knew what they were doing.=A0Not impossi=
ble it was =0A                        Acadian.=0A                        Pa=
ul=0A                       =20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hi Dave<div>Thanks for the info - an interest=
ing subject worthy of a museum.<br><div>Another possibility has been forwar=
ded from a man who has lived a long time in the area.</div><div>He says the=
re is a deposit of yellow ochre somewhere near by. This was used in the nat=
ural state mixed with oil for paint but for red ochre the yellow needed to =
be heated in a kiln. Red&nbsp;</div><div>was also mixed with oil for paint =
and both were used extensively in the area. Yellow ochre had to be dried be=
fore it was mixed but I guess the sun would do that but a kiln might have h=
elped.</div><div>When the snow goes more details might revel themselves.</d=
iv><div>Have a nice winter</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>=
--- On <b>Thu, 2/28/13, David &amp; Alison Webster <i>&lt;dwebster@glinx.co=
m&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16,=
 16,
 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David &amp; Alison W=
ebster &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Todays Walk<br=
>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>Received: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 8:02=
 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv718547073">=0A=0A =0A =0A<div>=0A<div><font size=
=3D"2">Hi Paul &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0A&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0A&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Feb 28, 2013</font></div>=0A<div>Thanks Pa=
ul. That would be Martins River and just about on the county =0Aline.</div>=
=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I agre=
e that it does not look like a =0Agood&nbsp;location for a lighthouse so a =
lime kiln sounds likely but it is hard =0Ato see why it would be so far fro=
m navigable water. &nbsp;</font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp=
;</div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know the histori=
cal details of lime =0Akiln use&nbsp;but logically, limestone would be the =
material of choice for =0Atransport from quarry to near a point of use; qui=
cklime is very caustic, slaked =0Alime is caustic and both will be&nbsp;les=
sened in effectiveness&nbsp;by exposure =0Ato air.</font></div>=0A<div><fon=
t size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;One would ha=
ve to heat the limestone rocks red hot for =0Ahours and would want to avoid=
 ashes in the final product so, again logically, =0Athere would be an iron =
grid onto which the stones were piled and fire maintained =0Abelow as neces=
sary. This would account for the 'walk way'; a way to maintain the =0Afire.=
 The stones are cooked when the largest stones crush readily. This would be=
 =0Aa difficult test when the stones were red hot so experience would be th=
e =0Aguide.</font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div=
><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The initial product, quicklime, was us=
ed =0Afor preparation of plaster (along with hair from short-tailed horses)=
 and other =0Amaterials such as&nbsp;sharp sand and&nbsp; Plaster of Paris =
when available. =0AAlso for lime mortar I think; used not only with rocks &=
amp; bricks but with =0Awood to build walls. </font></div>=0A<div><font siz=
e=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [I r=
ecall, as a preschool kid,. being very =0Aimpressed that lumps of something=
, carefully added to a barrel containing water, =0Acould bring the water to=
 a boil !]</font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>=
<font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Quicklime lumps, gradually exposed to w=
ater =0Abut not Carbon Dioxide, will form hydrated or slaked lime which is =
also what you =0Aget when quicklime is added to water. &nbsp;</font></div>=
=0A<div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">YT, Da=
ve Webster, Kentville</font></div>=0A<div>----- Original Message ----- </di=
v>=0A<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PA=
DDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir=3D"ltr">=0A  <div st=
yle=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> =0A  <a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" title=3D"paulrita2001@yahoo.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yaho=
o.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dpaulrita2001@yahoo.com">P=
aul =0A  MacDonald</a> </div>=0A  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b=
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" ymailto=3D"mailto:n=
aturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dnaturens=
@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> </div>=0A  <div style=3D"FONT:=
10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:56 =0A  AM</div>=0A=
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Todays Wal=
k</div>=0A  <div><br></div>=0A  <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellp=
adding=3D"0">=0A    <tbody>=0A    <tr>=0A      <td valign=3D"top">Hi Dave=
=0A        <div>Coordinates are 44 29 228 by 64 20 086 with the elev 21 m.<=
/div>=0A        <div>I wouldn't rule out a lighthouse as it is at the top o=
f an inlet - =0A        most things on the</div>=0A        <div>railway are=
 in this part of the world but it would not have been a =0A        very use=
ful lighthouse.</div>=0A        <div>We use to call lighthouses so position=
ed as range lights and were =0A        useful for fishing.</div>=0A        =
<div>As in go to a line between A and B and open out the range light! =0A  =
      Make a set there!</div>=0A        <div>Not as accurate as GPS but a l=
ot of fish were so caught.</div>=0A        <div>In discussion with a friend=
 he opinioned that it might be a lime =0A        kilm.</div>=0A        <div=
>I'm not sure if they used lime stone or bones for feed or perhaps =0A     =
   either to produce mortar lime for use in making stone cellars, chimneys =
=0A        and so on. They were placed near the water because the feed ofte=
n came =0A        by boat. Slacked lime seems to ring a &nbsp;bell. There i=
s another one =0A        around on a point in the bay. You might know more =
about this than I. or =0A        perhaps someone can fill us in on the proc=
ess.&nbsp;</div>=0A        <div>An interesting spot nevertheless !</div>=0A=
        <div>Paul</div>=0A        <div><br></div>=0A        <div><br><br>--=
- On <b>Wed, 2/27/13, David &amp; Alison Webster =0A        <i>&lt;dwebster=
@glinx.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>=0A        <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEF=
T:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From: =0A=
          David &amp; Alison Webster &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&gt;<br>Subject:=
 Re: =0A          [NatureNS] Todays Walk<br>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>=
Received: =0A          Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 4:33 PM<br><br>=0A    =
      <div id=3D"yiv718547073">=0A          <style></style>=0A=0A          =
<div>=0A          <div><font size=3D"2">Hi Paul,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; =0A          &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; =0A          &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 Feb 27, =0A          2013</font></div>=0A          <div><font size=3D"2">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can you give exact or approximate =0A          Google coo=
rdinates for this rock structure ? Is it close enough to the =0A          c=
oast to have been the foundation of a lighthouse ?</font></div>=0A         =
 <div><font size=3D"2">Yt, DW</font></div>=0A          <blockquote style=3D=
"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LE=
FT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" dir=3D"ltr">=0A            <div style=3D"FONT:10p=
t arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>=0A            <div style=3D"F=
ONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=
=3D"paulrita2001@yahoo.com">Paul =0A            MacDonald</a> </div>=0A    =
        <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" titl=
e=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">Nature NS</a> =0A            </div>=0A       =
     <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, =
=0A            2013 5:56 PM</div>=0A            <div style=3D"FONT:10pt ari=
al;"><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] Todays =0A            Walk</div>=0A        =
    <div><br></div>=0A            <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cel=
lpadding=3D"0">=0A              <tbody>=0A              <tr>=0A            =
    <td valign=3D"top">=0A                  <div id=3D"yiv718547073">=0A   =
               <table id=3D"yiv718547073bodyDrftID" class=3D"yiv718547073" =
border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=0A                    <tb=
ody>=0A                    <tr>=0A                      <td style=3D"FONT-F=
AMILY:arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;" id=3D"yiv718547073drftMsgContent">Hi All =0A  =
                      <div>In the grove was an old stone foundation or well=
 =0A                        casing. It was about</div>=0A                  =
      <div>2 m in diameter and had a walk way into it. The =0A             =
           stone rose up about 1 m above the local&nbsp;</div>=0A          =
              <div>ground, As there was snow on the ground the area =0A    =
                    wasn't visible. The rock work was</div>=0A             =
           <div>well done - no mortar - just the stones properly =0A       =
                 placed. Someone knew what they were doing.&nbsp;<span styl=
e=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Not impossible it was =0A                        Acad=
ian.</span></div>=0A                        <div>Paul</div>=0A             =
           <div><br></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody=
></table><a rel=3D"nofollow"></a>=0A            <p align=3D"left">No virus =
found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
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