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ce=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3">Bob McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bobathome8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E70_01CDF9AC.64DEB320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim & All, Jan 23, 2013 My estimate was ~45,000 (or perhaps >100,000) based on estimated = flight speed of 30 mph; perhaps way to fast, I don't know: pasted below. For years I think Kentville used exploding shells of some kind. And = they tried to move them on before they landed, by having crow disturbers = widely distributed. This latter approach was my recommendation, based on = experience with bird depredation control, and I was told subsequently by = Mayor Pope that my suggestions had been followed. Yt, DW, Kentville =20 START OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\. Hi Jim & All, May 9, 2002 At the peak, sometime in the early 90's I think, I would estimate = that at least 45,000 crows flew each evening to Kentville winter roosts from the = east.The flights were often well under way when I left work, more or = less continuous and were still going strong when I arrived home more = than 30 minutes later. The skeins were diffuse but broad and if all were = drawn together into one line, there would have been at the very least = one column beak to tail and probably three; an impressive sight and very = impressive I would think if you are potential crow food. If crows fly 30 mph and are 20" long then 15 miles x 5280 X 12 = /20=3D>47,520 crows. The Town has in recent years encouraged the crows to roost elsewhere = and the numbers here are down. But even if they have winter roosts in = New Minas and move NE with the spring, they still have to eat every day. Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville END OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James W. Wolford=20 To: NatureNS=20 Cc: Randy Milton=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:28 PM Subject: [NatureNS] re Kentville & The Phoenix Wailer & Hfx. & MSVU = roost Interesting thread started by James Churchill -- I think the figure of = 40,000 crows for Kentville a long time ago was bogus, based probably on = the highest count ever gotten by Randy Milton when he had teams of = people counting the incoming birds from all directions at dusk as they = homed in on their long-time roost on Boot Island off ne. Grand Pre. = Perhaps Randy can confirm this for the mid-1970s?, and maybe Richard = Stern or someone else can comment on any real counts attempted later in = Kentville, where a couple of Phoenix Wailers (invented in Truro area?) = were used for a long time and moved around with the changing roost = locations within Kentville. The last thing I recall hearing more recently about crow roosts in = towns was for the pines? in a park in Berwick? and/or Aylesford?? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: From: Bob McDonald <bobathome83@gmail.com> Date: January 23, 2013 3:40:16 PM AST To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Cc: Bob McDonald <bobathome83@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] The Phoenix Wailer Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Hmmm.... That's just about the time when the number of crows at the = Mount started to increase significantly. But the number at MSVU is much = smaller - more like ~7500 at last count. I wonder how widely they might = have dispersed? Bob McDonald Halifax ----- Original Message ----- From: James Churchill To: naturens Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: [NatureNS] The Phoenix Wailer an excerpt from the Register/Advertiser Justice section: =20 Crows a concern After a couple of complaints about a murder of crows, the village = of New Minas tried firing some blanks last week to disperse the birds. On Jan. 11, a village resident called police to report hearing = gunshots near the Empire Theatre. Superintendent of works Peter Pothier said Monday that the village = does not have a crow eradication program and any resident disturbed by = the birds should contact the province=92s natural resources department. As many as 40,000 crows were plaguing the town of Kentville = approximately 17 years ago. Eventually, the Phoenix Wailer, a device = that emits random sounds, was used successfully. --=20 James Churchill Kentville, Nova Scotia Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com Phone (h): (902) 681-2374 Skype: jameslchurchill No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6038 - Release Date: = 01/16/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------=_NextPart_000_0E70_01CDF9AC.64DEB320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19394"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Jim & All, = =20 = Jan=20 23, 2013</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> My estimate was ~45,000 (or = perhaps=20 >100,000) based on estimated flight speed of 30 mph; perhaps way to = fast, I=20 don't know: pasted below.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> For years I think Kentville used = exploding=20 shells of some kind. And they tried to move them on before = they=20 landed, by having crow disturbers widely distributed. This latter=20 approach was my recommendation, based on experience with bird = depredation=20 control, and I was told subsequently by Mayor Pope that my suggestions = had been=20 followed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, DW, Kentville </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>START OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT><FONT size=3D3>Hi Jim = &=20 All, &nb= sp; =20 May 9, 2002<BR> At the peak, sometime in the early = 90's I=20 think, I would estimate that at<BR>least 45,000 crows flew each evening = to=20 Kentville winter roosts from the east.The flights were often well under = way when=20 I left work, more or less continuous and were still going strong = when I=20 arrived home more than 30 minutes later. The skeins were diffuse but = broad and=20 if all were drawn together into one line, there would have been at the = very=20 least one column beak to tail and probably three; an impressive sight = and very=20 impressive I would think if you are potential crow = food.<BR> =20 If crows fly 30 mph and are 20" long then 15 miles x 5280 X 12 = /20=3D>47,520=20 crows.<BR> The Town has in recent years encouraged the crows = to=20 roost elsewhere and the numbers here are down. But even if they have = winter=20 roosts in New Minas and move NE with the spring, they still have to eat = every=20 day.<BR>Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV> <DIV>END OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20 Wolford</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=3Dmiltongr@gov.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:miltongr@gov.ns.ca">Randy Milton</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, = 2013 4:28=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re = Kentville &=20 The Phoenix Wailer & Hfx. & MSVU roost</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Interesting thread started by James Churchill -- I = think the=20 figure of 40,000 crows for Kentville a long time ago was bogus, based = probably=20 on the highest count ever gotten by Randy Milton when he had teams of = people=20 counting the incoming birds from all directions at dusk as they homed = in on=20 their long-time roost on Boot Island off ne. Grand Pre. Perhaps = Randy=20 can confirm this for the mid-1970s?, and maybe Richard Stern or = someone else=20 can comment on any real counts attempted later in Kentville, where a = couple of=20 Phoenix Wailers (invented in Truro area?) were used for a long time = and moved=20 around with the changing roost locations within Kentville. <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The last thing I recall hearing more recently about crow roosts = in towns=20 was for the pines? in a park in Berwick? and/or Aylesford??<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR> <DIV><BR> <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR = class=3DApple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Bob = McDonald <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:bobathome83@gmail.com">bobathome83@gmail.com</A>></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>January 23, = 2013 3:40:16=20 PM AST</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Cc: </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Bob = McDonald <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:bobathome83@gmail.com">bobathome83@gmail.com</A>></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: = </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: = [NatureNS] The=20 Phoenix Wailer</B></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Reply-To: = </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><BR></DIV><SPAN=20 style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; = BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; = ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: = 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"=20 class=3DApple-style-span> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hmmm.... That's just about = the time when=20 the number of crows at the Mount started to increase = significantly. =20 But the number at MSVU is much smaller - more like ~7500 = at last=20 count. I wonder how widely they might have = dispersed?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bob McDonald</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Halifax</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt arial; = background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN=20 class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20 title=3Djameslchurchill@gmail.com=20 href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">James = Churchill</A></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN=20 class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens</A></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20 class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, January 23, = 2013 3:07=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20 class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[NatureNS] The Phoenix=20 Wailer</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr>an excerpt from the Register/Advertiser Justice = section: <DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); = FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Crows=20 a concern</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); = FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">After=20 a couple of complaints about a murder of crows, the village of New = Minas=20 tried firing some blanks last week to disperse the birds.</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); = FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">On=20 Jan. 11, a village resident called police to report hearing = gunshots near=20 the Empire Theatre.</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); = FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: = 0px">Superintendent=20 of works Peter Pothier said Monday that the village does not have = a crow=20 eradication program and any resident disturbed by the birds should = contact=20 the province=92s natural resources department.</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(170,170,170); MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; COLOR: rgb(77,77,77); = FONT-SIZE: 1.4em; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">As=20 many as 40,000 crows were plaguing the town of Kentville = approximately 17=20 years ago. Eventually, the Phoenix Wailer, a device that emits = random=20 sounds, was used successfully.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>--<SPAN = class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>James=20 Churchill<BR>Kentville, Nova Scotia<BR>Email:<SPAN=20 class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20 href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com"=20 target=3D_blank>jameslchurchill@gmail.com</A><BR>Phone (h): (902)=20 681-2374<BR>Skype:=20 = jameslchurchill<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></BLOCKQ= UOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><A></A> <P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2013.0.2890 / = Virus=20 Database: 2638/6038 - Release Date: 01/16/13<BR>Internal Virus = Database is out=20 of date.</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0E70_01CDF9AC.64DEB320--
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