[NatureNS] re redness of coyote and deer carcass.

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Hi Jim & All,                            Jan 4, 2013
    When a powerful predator becomes comfortable near houses then you =
have the equivalent of a ticking time bomb with an undefined detonation =
point. In the absence of change one may be confident that some child, =
while playing in their yard, will be mangled or killed by a coyote.=20
   =20
    Seven decades ago coyotes would have remained wary of humans; dogs =
could run and most rural houses had one or more firearms (sometimes =
loaded and hung over each exit door) and the freedom to use them when =
warranted.=20

    Risk assessment is not one of our strong points. The prevailing =
notion that everything should be left to the authorities is a crock.=20

    End of rant.
YT, Dave Webster Kentville
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James W. Wolford=20
  To: NatureNS ; Mike Boudreau ; Mark F Elderkin ; Dick Dekker=20
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:54 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] re redness of coyote and deer carcass.




  Locally for my area, a friend told me he was very surprised to look =
out from his rural house in Lockhartville (east of Avonport) and see a =
coyote only a few tens of metres away from his house in an open field, =
and it stood there and surveyed the situation for a while before =
sauntering off.  This was probably nothing to be concerned about, but, =
if he reports a reoccurrence, it should be reported to NSDNR.


  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.



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    From: garymurray <garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Date: January 3, 2013 9:33:27 PM AST
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Coyote and deer carcass.
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca


    Oops I did it too!




    Sent from Samsung Mobile

    garymurray <garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

    Hi, I wonder what if any harm it would do to let nature take it's =
course, as we all know it is impossible to control or eradicate them.
    Parks Canada  used to use "bangers", kind of like a firecracker to =
scare away the Elk when I lived in Jasper, but you gotta wonder how it =
would work on wily coyotes.=20


    A neighbour's friend is a wildlife tech, so will ask him next time I =
see him. He was coincidentally on the news last night about coyotes in =
Laurie park.


    Yeah, the red, and size really stood out to me=20


    cheers,
    Gary.








    Sent from Samsung Mobile

    Angela <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> wrote:
    Part 2: I forgot to mention that he too noticed how red the coyote =
seemed.=20

    Angela in Windsor

    Sent from my iPhone

    On 2013-01-03, at 8:37 PM, Angela <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> wrote:

    > Hi there. My dad called to tell me about this. He called DNR who =
said he wasn't the first one to call. They weren't going to send anyone =
out bc the ice could be unsafe and they weren't going to call the fire =
dept as that us not their job. They did say they were going to send a =
tech out there with firecrackers- I kid you not- and try to scare the =
coyote off. However the deer carcass will still be there.=20
    >=20
    > Angela in Windsor
    >=20
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >=20
    > On 2013-01-03, at 8:00 PM, garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
    >=20
    >> Hi all,
    >>=20
    >> Whilst driving by Barrett Lake on the Beaverbank Road today, =
there was a deer carcass in the middle of the lake being picked at by 3 =
Ravens. Hovering a few hundred metres away was a large Reddish Coyote =
which was reluctant to go near it with myself and another vehicle parked =
watching it. It eventually left, I assume it would return after things =
quieted down or after dark whichever came first.=20
    >>=20
    >> Couldn't stick around due to an appointment, but will try to =
swing by tomorrow to see if there is any activity around the carcass. It =
looked like a whole animal, not just the pelt etc.. that a hunter would =
be getting rid of.=20
    >> The red colour and large size made me wonder about the Red Wolf =
species in Algonquin Park and if this was an off shoot of it or =
something. Pretty cool to see in any event.=20
    >>=20
    >> Lots of birds around the feeders today, mainly Redpolls, =
Goldfinches and Pine Siskins. Plus Red and White Breasted Nuthatches, =
B.C. Chickadees, Downy, Hairy Woodpeckers, 17 Mourning Doves, though it =
looks like the resident ducks seem to have flown the coop with the lake =
being mostly frozen over now.=20
    >>=20
    >> Cheers,
    >> Gary Murray
    >> Tucker Lake,=20
    >> Beaverbank NS
    >>=20
    >>=20



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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When a powerful predator becomes=20
comfortable near houses then you have the equivalent of a ticking time =
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an undefined detonation point. In the absence of change one may be =
confident=20
that some child, while playing in their yard, will be mangled or killed =
by a=20
coyote. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Seven decades ago coyotes would =
have=20
remained wary of humans; dogs could run and most rural houses had one or =
more=20
firearms (sometimes loaded and hung over each exit door)&nbsp;and the =
freedom to=20
use them when warranted. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Risk assessment is not one of our =
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points. The prevailing notion that everything should be left to the =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; End of rant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>YT, Dave Webster Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20
  Wolford</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dboudremj@gov.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:boudremj@gov.ns.ca">Mike =
Boudreau</A> ;=20
  <A title=3Delderkmf@gov.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:elderkmf@gov.ns.ca">Mark =
F=20
  Elderkin</A> ; <A title=3Dddekker1@telus.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:ddekker1@telus.net">Dick Dekker</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 04, 2013 =
3:54=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re redness =
of coyote=20
  and deer carcass.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Locally for my area, a friend told me he was very surprised to =
look out=20
  from his rural house in Lockhartville (east of Avonport) and see a =
coyote only=20
  a few tens of metres away from his house in an open field, and it =
stood there=20
  and surveyed the situation for a while before sauntering off. =
&nbsp;This was=20
  probably nothing to be concerned about, but, if he reports a =
reoccurrence, it=20
  should be reported to NSDNR.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>garymurray =
&lt;<A=20
    =
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT=20
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    =
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    style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: =
[NatureNS] Coyote=20
    and deer carcass.</B></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Reply-To: =
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    <DIV>Oops I did it too!</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"COLOR: #575757; FONT-SIZE: 75%">Sent from Samsung=20
    Mobile</DIV></DIV><BR>garymurray &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca">garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca</A>=
&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR>
    <DIV>Hi, I wonder what if any harm it would do to let nature take =
it's=20
    course, as we all know it is impossible to control or eradicate =
them.</DIV>
    <DIV>Parks Canada &nbsp;used to use "bangers", kind of like a =
firecracker to=20
    scare away the Elk when I lived in Jasper, but you gotta wonder how =
it would=20
    work on wily coyotes.&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>A neighbour's friend is a wildlife tech, so will ask him next =
time I=20
    see him. He was coincidentally on the news last night about coyotes =
in=20
    Laurie park.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Yeah, the red, and size really stood out to me&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>cheers,</DIV>
    <DIV>Gary.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"COLOR: #575757; FONT-SIZE: 75%">Sent from Samsung=20
    Mobile</DIV></DIV><BR>Angela &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca">aljoudrey@eastlink.ca</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR>Part 2: I forgot to mention that he too noticed how red =
the coyote=20
    seemed. <BR><BR>Angela in Windsor<BR><BR>Sent from my =
iPhone<BR><BR>On=20
    2013-01-03, at 8:37 PM, Angela &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca">aljoudrey@eastlink.ca</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Hi there. My dad called to tell me about this. He =
called=20
    DNR who said he wasn't the first one to call. They weren't going to =
send=20
    anyone out bc the ice could be unsafe and they weren't going to call =
the=20
    fire dept as that us not their job. They did say they were going to =
send a=20
    tech out there with firecrackers- I kid you not- and try to scare =
the coyote=20
    off. However the deer carcass will still be there. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Angela=20
    in Windsor<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Sent from my iPhone<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On=20
    2013-01-03, at 8:00 PM, <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca">garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca</A>=
=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Whilst =
driving=20
    by Barrett Lake on the Beaverbank Road today, there was a deer =
carcass in=20
    the middle of the lake being picked at by 3 Ravens. Hovering a few =
hundred=20
    metres away was a large Reddish Coyote which was reluctant to go =
near it=20
    with myself and another vehicle parked watching it. It eventually =
left, I=20
    assume it would return after things quieted down or after dark =
whichever=20
    came first. <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Couldn't stick around due to =
an=20
    appointment, but will try to swing by tomorrow to see if there is =
any=20
    activity around the carcass. It looked like a whole animal, not just =
the=20
    pelt etc.. that a hunter would be getting rid of. <BR>&gt;&gt; The =
red=20
    colour and large size made me wonder about the Red Wolf species in =
Algonquin=20
    Park and if this was an off shoot of it or something. Pretty cool to =
see in=20
    any event. <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Lots of birds around the =
feeders today,=20
    mainly Redpolls, Goldfinches and Pine Siskins. Plus Red and White =
Breasted=20
    Nuthatches, B.C. Chickadees, Downy, Hairy Woodpeckers, 17 Mourning =
Doves,=20
    though it looks like the resident ducks seem to have flown the coop =
with the=20
    lake being mostly frozen over now. <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
    Cheers,<BR>&gt;&gt; Gary Murray<BR>&gt;&gt; Tucker Lake, =
<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
    Beaverbank NS<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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