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To add to this discussion, the Weather Underground has interesting graphics
and models not found on other sites: http://www.wunderground.com/. Click on
the Severe Weather menu and go to hurricanes. I find the various tabs on the
computer models as especially interesting.
John
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
On Behalf Of Hubcove@aol.com
Sent: October 28, 2012 18:21
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Tracking Hurricane Sandy
I think it is probably easy to get confused with the multitude of offerings
on weather. I find the Canadian weather office the best, where you can
compare the US hurricane forecast alongside the Canadian version. I find
that they are mostly comparable with perhaps a bit more detail on the US
side.
Click on www.weatheroffice.gc.ca, go to "marine info" and then "hurricane"
and you can make your choice of Canadian or Noaa offerings..
Peter Stow Hubbards.
In a message dated 28/10/2012 4:44:22 P.M. Atlantic Daylight Time,
e.mills@dal.ca writes:
Hi Larry,
I agree that the site one uses depends on what information is required. For
example, if I were
in the eastern Great Lakes area through to Central Ontario, I'd be following
the EC site with
rapt attention, both for the forecast of adverse weather and for bird
prediction.
We got surprisingly little out of Irene (last fall), so Sandy may be
similar, though it may be
larger and thus more effective in bringing us some pelagics from that
way-far-out-at-sea
eastern sector of the cyclone. Prediction is a mug's game, to quote someone.
I'm not sure where you are unpacking. Are you back in NS?
All the best,
Eric
On 28 Oct 2012 at 9:55, Larry Neily wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> We are still unpacking so I'll be brief. But I feel I shouldrespond
> to your question,"The NOAA site
> is good, but why not use one oriented to our area, originating
> withEnvironment Canada"?
>
> While I was certain that anyone wanting local coverage would check
> the Environment Canada
> (EC)site - as you say, discussion of the local conditions is bound
> to be more in depth - I did not
> propose the National Hurricane Center (NHC) site for that reason
> alone. I believe that the
> mapping and graphical coverage of storms is much superior on the NHC
> site, especially for
> comparitive overviews such as I was proposing (in response toa
> question someone asked last
> week what could be expected to show up after the storm). As a quick
> example, historical storm
> data from EC seems to consist of aseries of single day snippets,
> while NHC has graphics of the
> entire storm track.
>
> It was proposed as a fun exercise, but perhaps could be interesting,
> who knows.
>
> Hope to get out birding soon. Cheers, Larry
>
> > On 27 Oct 2012 at 14:51, Larry Neily wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Seeing Don's post made me wonder if this listservs members had
> heard of the NOAA
> National
> > > Hurricane Center website. Probably superfluous, but maybe some
> folks out there haven't
> heard
> > > of it:
> > > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/. It is great fun to check out all the
> possibilities, but it also allows
> close
> > > following of the projected and pasttrack - always of interest to
> birders.
> > >
> > > The link
> >
> >http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/120153.shtml?50w
> ind120#contentsis to
> > > Hurricane Sandy,and at other spots on the main siteyou can watch
> all previous storms or
> those
> > > just beginning. If youfound previous storms that followed
> Sandy's track at the same time of
> year,
> > > you might look for birds similiar to those th
>
>
Eric L. Mills
286 Kingsburg Road
RR#1, Rose Bay, NS B0J 2X0
Canada
e.mills@dal.ca
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hubcove@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> October 28, 2012 =
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i Larry, <br><br>I agree that the site one uses depends on what =
information is required. For example, if I were <br>in the eastern Great =
Lakes area through to Central Ontario, I'd be following the EC site with =
<br>rapt attention, both for the forecast of adverse weather and for =
bird prediction. <br><br>We got surprisingly little out of Irene (last =
fall), so Sandy may be similar, though it may be <br>larger and thus =
more effective in bringing us some pelagics from that way-far-out-at-sea =
<br>eastern sector of the cyclone. Prediction is a mug's game, to quote =
someone. <br><br>I'm not sure where you are unpacking. Are you back in =
NS?<br><br>All the best,<br><br>Eric<br><br><br><br>On 28 Oct 2012 at =
9:55, Larry Neily wrote:<br><br>> <br>> Hi Eric,<br>> <br>> =
We are still unpacking so I'll be brief. But I feel I =
shouldrespond<br>> to your question,"The NOAA site <br>> is =
good, but why not use one oriented to our area, originating<br>> =
withEnvironment Canada"?<br>> <br>> While I was certain that =
anyone wanting local coverage would check<br>> the Environment Canada =
<br>> (EC)site - as you say, discussion of the local conditions is =
bound<br>> to be more in depth - I did not <br>> propose the =
National Hurricane Center (NHC) site for that reason<br>> alone. I =
believe that the <br>> mapping and graphical coverage of storms is =
much superior on the NHC<br>> site, especially for <br>> =
comparitive overviews such as I was proposing (in response toa<br>> =
question someone asked last <br>> week what could be expected to show =
up after the storm). As a quick<br>> example, historical storm =
<br>> data from EC seems to consist of aseries of single day =
snippets,<br>> while NHC has graphics of the <br>> entire storm =
track.<br>> <br>> It was proposed as a fun exercise, but perhaps =
could be interesting,<br>> who knows.<br>> <br>> Hope to get =
out birding soon. Cheers, Larry<br>> <br>> > On 27 Oct 2012 at =
14:51, Larry Neily wrote:<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> > =
> Seeing Don's post made me wonder if this listservs members =
had<br>> heard of the NOAA <br>> National<br>> > > =
Hurricane Center website. Probably superfluous, but maybe some<br>> =
folks out there haven't <br>> heard<br>> > > of it:<br>> =
> > <a =
href=3D"http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/">http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/</a>. It is =
great fun to check out all the<br>> possibilities, but it also allows =
<br>> close<br>> > > following of the projected and =
pasttrack - always of interest to<br>> birders.<br>> > =
><br>> > > The link<br>> ><br>> ><a =
href=3D"http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/120153.shtml?5=
0w">http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/120153.shtml?50w</=
a><br>> ind120#contentsis to<br>> > > Hurricane Sandy,and at =
other spots on the main siteyou can watch<br>> all previous storms or =
<br>> those<br>> > > just beginning. If youfound previous =
storms that followed<br>> Sandy's track at the same time of <br>> =
year,<br>> > > you might look for birds similiar to those th =
<br>> <br>> <br><br><br><br><br>Eric L. Mills<br>286 Kingsburg =
Road<br>RR#1, Rose Bay, NS B0J 2X0<br>Canada<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:e.mills@dal.ca">e.mills@dal.ca</a></span><span =
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