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Halifax, Nova Sco This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05D5_01CD86EF.CA8B1270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris, Steve & All, Aug 30, 2012 Yes the capacitance of the cable would store electricity but (and = here I venture onto thin ice) the magnitude of this storage would be = vanishingly small.=20 From here onward the ice is even thinner-- As a first approximation, when the DC source is removed then the = voltage between the two ends of the cable would not decrease to zero = immediately but would fall asymptotically as charge is drained from the = coaxial sheath. The charge delivered to the destination/sec, before removal of the = DC source, would be roughly 3 x 10^10 times as great as the charge = delivered by discharge of the cable. =20 Yt, DW, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christopher Majka=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] wind power storage Hi Steve, "Long undersea / underground high voltage cables have a high = electrical capacitance compared with overhead transmission lines, since = the live conductors within the cable are surrounded by a relatively thin = layer of insulation (the dielectric), and a metal sheath. The geometry = is that of a long co-axial capacitor. The total capacitance increases = with the length of the cable. This capacitance appears in parallel with = the load." Does this indicate that the capacitance of cable itself can store = electricity or am I completely off-base? ;~> ------=_NextPart_000_05D5_01CD86EF.CA8B1270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19298"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Chris, Steve & All, =20 = =20 Aug 30, 2012</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Yes the capacitance of the cable = would=20 store electricity but (and here I venture onto thin ice) the = magnitude of=20 this storage would be vanishingly small. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> From here onward the ice is even=20 thinner--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> As a first approximation, when = the DC=20 source is removed then the voltage between the two ends = of the=20 cable would not decrease to zero immediately but would fall = asymptotically as=20 charge is drained from the coaxial sheath.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> The charge delivered to the=20 destination/sec, before removal of the DC source, would be roughly = 3 x=20 10^10 times as great as the charge delivered by discharge of the=20 cable. </FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, DW, Kentville</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dc.majka@ns.sympatico.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">Christopher Majka</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 30, 2012 = 10:14=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] wind = power=20 storage</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>Hi Steve, <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>"Long undersea / underground high voltage cables have a = high=20 electrical capacitance compared with overhead transmission = lines,=20 since the live conductors within the cable are surrounded by a = relatively thin=20 layer of insulation (the dielectric), and a metal sheath. The = geometry is=20 that of a long co-axial capacitor. The total capacitance = increases with=20 the length of the cable. This capacitance appears in parallel with the = load."</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Does this indicate that the capacitance of cable itself can store = electricity or am I completely off-base? ;~></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_05D5_01CD86EF.CA8B1270--
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