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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_261B_01CD111B.B0229CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul & All, Apr 2, 2012 I don't doubt the necessity of mud but, based on my memory, the mud = need not be near the barn. When I was a kid in Cambridge Sta., Kings Co., we always had nests = of Swallows in the barn (late 30.s to mid 40's,barn often not used, i.e. = without livestock) and on the rafters of an open veranda. I assume these were barn swallows; nest were made of mud, possibly = from a neighbour's farm pond several hundred yards away, as the Swallow = flies, or a nearby Alder swamp. Late in the war we had livestock again = but the soil near the barn (well drained Cornwallis Sandy Loam) was not = mud friendly and, with few exceptions, cattle passed through the yard = twice a year; once on the way to pasture and once on the way back. The Swallows also used a lot of hair in their nests (probably to = increase stability). This they collected by dive-bombing our dog and = cats and grabbing a beak full before swooping up out of reach. Just an aside about cattle & mud. About 1957-58 I found a relatively = dry mud area pocked with deep cattle tracks; tracks had clearly been = made when the soil was very wet and had subsequently dried. Virtually = every track was lined with a felt of tiny Blueberry (Vaccinium) = seedlings. Presumably these seed would have been washed into this muddy = depression, either from decaying berries or from bird droppings.=20 I have wondered since then if the word Vaccinium (of cattle) is = directly related to the ability of Blueberry to germinate especially = well on cow pocked mud [and subsequent spreading by rhizomes to higher = ground in cow pastures].=20 Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Paul MacDonald=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barn Swallow Locations? Hi Liz Gordon Drysdale, of singing fame, has a barn at Wallace which has a good population and he is very helpful showing them = around. The thing to look for is cattle near a barn, they make mud with their = feet which the swallows use to make nests. When the cows are gone, so are the swallows alas. Good luck Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Elizabeth Campbell <E.Campbell@DAL.CA> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 1:23:44 PM Subject: [NatureNS] Barn Swallow Locations? Hello All I am a Biology student at Dalhousie and will be doing a research = project this summer on barn swallows, looking at what areas they use for = nesting, what characteristics are important in where they build their = nests, and how many are reusing old nests from previous years. My hope = is that what I learn can be applied to their conservation and increase = population numbers. If anyone knows the location of breeding barn = swallows, especially around Halifax, and wouldn't mind sharing I'd = really appreciate the help. Information can be sent to me at = E.Campbell@dal.ca Note that I won't be disturbing the swallows in any way, just = observing from a distance. Thank you in advance, Liz Campbell -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4909 - Release Date: = 04/01/12 ------=_NextPart_000_261B_01CD111B.B0229CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19190"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Paul & All, = =20 Apr 2, 2012</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I don't doubt the necessity of = mud but,=20 based on my memory, the mud need not be near the barn.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> When I was a kid in Cambridge = Sta., Kings=20 Co., we always had nests of Swallows in the barn (late 30.s to mid = 40's,barn=20 often not used, i.e. without livestock) and on the rafters of an open=20 veranda.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I assume these were barn = swallows; nest=20 were made of mud, possibly from a neighbour's farm pond several hundred = yards=20 away, as the Swallow flies, or a nearby Alder swamp. Late in the war we = had=20 livestock again but the soil near the barn (well drained Cornwallis = Sandy Loam)=20 was not mud friendly and, with few exceptions, cattle passed = through the=20 yard twice a year; once on the way to pasture and once on the way=20 back.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> The Swallows also used a lot of = hair in=20 their nests (probably to increase stability). This they collected by=20 dive-bombing our dog and cats and grabbing a beak full before swooping = up out of=20 reach.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Just an aside about cattle & = mud. About=20 1957-58 I found a relatively dry mud area pocked with deep cattle = tracks;=20 tracks had clearly been made when the soil was very wet and had = subsequently=20 dried. Virtually every track was lined with a felt of tiny Blueberry = (Vaccinium)=20 seedlings. Presumably these seed would have been washed into this muddy=20 depression, either from decaying berries or from bird droppings. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I have wondered since then if the = word=20 Vaccinium (of cattle) is directly related to the ability of Blueberry to = germinate especially well on cow pocked mud [and subsequent spreading by = rhizomes to higher ground in cow pastures]. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> &a