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--Boundary_(ID_aO15Gq2TKhBusRgnOxoArg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Apologies for not seeing Jim Edsall's diagnosis of a bedstraw hawk moth or bedstraw sphinx moth, Hyles gallii. But I want to amend what I said below re books for caterpillars. Besides the affordable Golden Guide to Butterflies and Moths, which has lots of illustrations of caterpillars, there is the Peterson First Guide to CATERPILLARS (1993) by Amy Bartlett Wright, and then there is the large tome, "Caterpillars of Eastern North America" (2005) by David L. Wagner (Princeton Univ. Press). Also, BEWARE: most hawk or sphinx moths have "hornworms" for caterpillars, but the family is diverse enough, like most of nature, so that the "rule" doesn't always hold true. I.e., some Sphingid moths have caterpillars with no "horn" on the back end. Similarly, it should surprise nobody who is experienced with diverse insects, that there are other caterpillars out there that have "horns" on their hind ends but are not in the Sphingidae. One that I have photographed is called a "false hornworm", Pheosia rimosa, in the family Notodontidae. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. Begin forwarded message: > From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> > Date: September 12, 2011 6:02:17 PM ADT > To: NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > Subject: [NatureNS] another large caterpillar ID please > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > I don't have any of my books right now, but it is one of the > "hornworms", i.e. caterpillars of sphinx moths, also called hawk > moths, Sphingidae family? Take it from there, Jim Edsall or > others! Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. Good sources of caterpillar > info' are cheaply in the Golden Guide to Butterflies and Moths, and > in detail in Wagner's big and gorgeous and hugely informative > recent field guide to caterpillars. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca >> Date: September 12, 2011 12:47:15 PM ADT >> To: nature <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >> Subject: [NatureNS] another large caterpillar ID please >> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> >> My daughter came across this caterpillar while out walking her dog >> in Fredericton NB. I have never seen one before.Knowing how much I >> enjoy nature,she photographed it with her phone and sent it to >> me.Anyone know what it is?Pictures are not the best. >> http://www.panoramio.com/photo/58864797 >> >> Thank you,Jeannie Shermerhorn > --Boundary_(ID_aO15Gq2TKhBusRgnOxoArg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Apologies for not seeing Jim Edsall's diagnosis of a bedstraw hawk moth = or bedstraw sphinx moth, Hyles gallii. But I want to amend what I = said below re books for caterpillars. Besides the affordable = Golden Guide to Butterflies and Moths, which has lots of illustrations = of caterpillars, there is the Peterson First Guide to CATERPILLARS = (1993) by Amy Bartlett Wright, and then there is the large tome, = "Caterpillars of Eastern North America" (2005) by David L. Wagner = (Princeton Univ. Press).<div><br></div><div>Also, BEWARE: most hawk or = sphinx moths have "hornworms" for caterpillars, but the family is = diverse enough, like most of nature, so that the "rule" doesn't always = hold true. I.e., some Sphingid moths have caterpillars with no = "horn" on the back end. Similarly, it should surprise nobody who = is experienced with diverse insects, that there are other caterpillars = out there that have "horns" on their hind ends but are not in the = Sphingidae. One that I have photographed is called a "false = hornworm", Pheosia rimosa, in the family = Notodontidae.<br><div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in = Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" <<a = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>></fon= t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">September 12, 2011 6:02:17 PM = ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">NatureNS <<a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>></f= ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[NatureNS] another large caterpillar = ID please</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> I don't have any = of my books right now, but it is one of the "hornworms", i.e. = caterpillars of sphinx moths, also called hawk moths, Sphingidae family? = Take it from there, Jim Edsall or others! Cheers from Jim in = Wolfville. Good sources of caterpillar info' are cheaply in the = Golden Guide to Butterflies and Moths, and in detail in Wagner's big and = gorgeous and hugely informative recent field guide to = caterpillars.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca">jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca</a></fon= t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">September 12, 2011 12:47:15 PM = ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">nature <<a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>></f= ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[NatureNS] another large caterpillar = ID please</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">My daughter came across this caterpillar while out = walking her dog in Fredericton NB. I have never seen one before.Knowing = how much I enjoy nature,she photographed it with her phone and sent it = to me.Anyone know what it is?Pictures are not the best.</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><a = href=3D"http://www.panoramio.com/photo/58864797">http://www.panoramio.com/= photo/58864797</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thank you,Jeannie = Shermerhorn</div> = </blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>= --Boundary_(ID_aO15Gq2TKhBusRgnOxoArg)--
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