[NatureNS] re snake and caterpillar IDs

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> From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Date: September 8, 2011 4:53:20 PM ADT
> To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca>, John Gilhen  
> <GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca>
> Cc: Angela Joudrey <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca>
> Subject: [ValleyNature] snake  and caterpillar IDs
>
> Angela, regarding your hairy caterpillar, there are quite a few  
> different woolly-bear species of moths in Nova Scotia, but I will  
> guess that yours were possibly acrea moths, sometimes called salt- 
> marsh caterpillars, and their ground colour of hairs is quite  
> variable, according to a field guide to caterpillars I have, but  
> often a nice reddish-brown colour.
>
> But I won't contradict Jim Edsall, who is much more knowledgeable  
> than I, when he wrote:
>
> "the reddish brown furry caterpillars are the Virginia Tiger Moth,  
> Spilosoma virginica,"
>
> Jim Edsall
> Dartmouth, N.S.
> check out my personal website at
> http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jim.edsall/
>
> Angela, the woolly bear that you mentioned it was not, the black- 
> brown-black species, is the isabella moth.
>
> Most of the woolly bears are kinds of tiger moths (family  
> Arctiidae) but not all of them.
>
> One interesting thing about these hairy caterpillars is that,  
> somehow, the process of pupation results in those hairs making up  
> the outer coat of the cocoon, and this must be an effective  
> protective adaptation.
>
> Cheers from Jim, writing this without any books in hand, in Wolfville.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Andrew Hebda <HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca>
>> Date: September 8, 2011 3:32:15 PM ADT
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] snake  and caterpillar ID
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>> It sounds like a Green snake.  Post-mortem changes cause a loss of  
>> the yellow pigmentation, with colour reverting to anything from a  
>> soft to metallic blue.
>>
>>
>> Andrew Hebda
>> Nova Scotia Museum
>>
>>>>> AngelaJoudrey <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> 9/8/2011 3:16 pm >>>
>>
>> I am late in posting this.
>>
>> On Monday ( Labour Day )while running along Chester Road, I  
>> stopped for a snake that had been hit and was dead on the road.
>>
>> I picked it up ( not very squashed ) to set it in the ditch and  
>> was surprised at how blue it was underneath.
>>
>> The snake was less than a foot long, slender, dark dark grey- but  
>> not black, and a beautiful blue underneath.
>>
>> I checked the Natural History Museum website on Snakes in  NS, but  
>> none there seemed to fit what I found.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> There was also many many many many reddish brown furry  
>> caterpillars crossing the road. They had one speed, super fast.  
>> They were a few cm long.  And they were on a mission. To get to  
>> the other side? To build a cocoon?
>>
>> Any ideas as to which ones they were? There were not the woolly  
>> bear, there was definitely not any black on any of them.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Angela in Windsor
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Angela, regarding your hairy caterpillar, there are quite a few =
different woolly-bear species of moths in Nova Scotia, but I will guess =
that yours were possibly acrea moths, sometimes called salt-marsh =
caterpillars, and their ground colour of hairs is quite variable, =
according to a field guide to caterpillars I have, but often a nice =
reddish-brown colour.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>But I won't