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of board --_55ec3604-572a-4b05-98e6-48a161513f92_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and he is right about the need to preserve heritage trees - and indeed old = growth forests. These should trigger an environmental assessment before an= y cutting is done. From: perry.lynne@hotmail.com To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Age of hemlock trees Date: Thu=2C 21 Jul 2011 21:30:53 -0200 I so respect Peter Hope.....have for years. Thanks for sharing this. Kind r= egards. Lynne Perry. =20 Date: Thu=2C 21 Jul 2011 20:20:04 -0300 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca From: plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Age of hemlock trees Hi Annabelle=2C I asked a similar question on this forum six years ago . Peter Hop= e=2C now retired from Kejimkujiki National Park=2C gave a very helpful repl= y=2C which I am sure he would not mind my repeating. =20 Patricia L. Chalmers Halifax P.S. How did you measure the height of the trees? At 10:53 PM 02/02/2005=2C Peter Hope wrote: Hi Patricia=2C Wow=2C what a hemlock you have there! I'll answer your question based upon some study I did in the big hemlock grove on Hemlocks and Hardwoods trail in Kejimkujik a few years ago. I initiated having the trail built in 1976 and laid out the route. A couple o= f years ago it was in real need of resurfacing with gravel. We did a bunch of studies=2C then wrote self-interpreting signs. Since I retired the work has been done with a lengthy stretch of boardwalk to keep people on the path an= d protect the trees - the soil around their roots was eroded and their roots were in the early stages of being debarked and worn. The problem was nipped in the bud. Anyway I got some of my staff to help me. We measured the trees (diameter a= t breast height above the ground)=2C used an instrument to measure the height and cored the trees. So what I'll give you is based upon individual trees. We did a few in each size class. Your tree=2C with 130 inch circum. is 330 cm around. Here is what I measure= d that were closest to that size: Tree # 1 258 cm in circum. 230 + years (core was not quite complete so precise age uncertain) Tree # 2 237 cm in circum. 240 years old Tree # 3 217 cm in circum. 275 years old Tree # 4 251 cm in circum. 280 years old Based upon the above a nearby tree 304 cm in circum. was estimated at 350 t= o 400 years old. I think it is likely that your tree is conservatively 400 years old. There are two hemlocks together in a stand of young trees=2C mostly beech= =2C just 15 m. off the Grafton Woods Trail in Kejimkujik. I feel they are about the size of your tree or just a shade bigger. I have always felt they were over 400 years old and might be close to 500. It is not possible to core such trees with the equipment I had and it is likely they have hollow butts=2C so no accurate measurement can be taken. A book we had in the Kejimkujik library stated that eastern hemlocks had been recorded at over 900 years of age! It is a pity such trees that you have described could not be classified as "heritage trees" and saved for their uniqueness. Pete Hope ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia L. Chalmers" <Patricia.Chalmers@ukings.ns.ca> To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday=2C February 02=2C 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Hemlock Tree - how old? > Hi there=2C > > Enough about birds=2C here's a question about trees. > > Along the Old Coach Trail=2C which passes through the woods behind my > parents' house in Bedford=2C there used to be some very large hemlocks. = The > biggest of these have recently been cut down by the developers of "The > Ravines of Bedford South". We got to wondering (too late) just how big > and old these trees were. My brother and I measured one of the hemlocks = still > standing=2C although it's smaller than the biggest ones that are now > gone. We found that this tree is about 130 inches in circumference=2C at > about breast height. It was growing against the side of a very steep > incline=2C so it was a challenge to measure and I took the measurement > higher up than perhaps I should have done. > > My question is=2C can one estimate from this how old the tree is? I > understand that one can't get a precise answer without taking a core > sample=2C but can someone suggest a range of years? > > Many thanks=2C > > Patricia L. Chalmers > Halifax At 01:57 PM 18/07/2011=2C Annabelle wrote: Martial and I would like to estimate the ages of three eastern hemlock tree= s in a little woodland graveyard near Georgefield. Here are their measurem= ents in metres. Circumferences are at breast height. Tree A B C Height 22 21 17 Circumference 1.52 1.75 1.83 Even very rough estimates would be of value to us with lower and upper boun= ds such as 125-150 years. = --_55ec3604-572a-4b05-98e6-48a161513f92_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Tahoma } --></style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'> and he is right about the need to preserve heritage trees - and indeed old = growth forests. =3B These should trigger an environmental assessment be= fore any cutting is done.<br> =3B<BR><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From:= perry.lynne@hotmail.com<br>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>Subject: RE: [Na= tureNS] Age of hemlock trees<br>Date: Thu=2C 21 Jul 2011 21:30:53 -0200<br>= <br> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML"> <style> .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px=3B} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Tahoma=3B} </style> <div dir=3D"ltr"> I so respect Peter Hope.....have for years. Thanks for sharing this. Kind r= egards. Lynne Perry.<br> =3B<br> <div> <hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling"> Date: Thu=2C 21 Jul 2011 20:20:04 -0300<br>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>F= rom: plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca<br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Age of hemlock t= rees<br><br>Hi Annabelle=2C<br><br> =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B=  =3B =3B =3BI asked a similar question on this forum six years = ago . =3B Peter Hope=2C now reti