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illustrations) on the NS M This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_LG/cAvoVfqC30A4Jk1uw+w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable John, Unfortunately I didn't know to look for the three yellow spots -- = maybe one of those cases of not seeing what you're not looking for. My = guess is that in the shade at the trail's side yellow spots may have = not been terribly distinct from the orange. Certainly they're not that = obvious in the photos I referred to -- they would stand out more in a = darker variation. As I mentioned, process of elimination encourages me = to think it was a Red-bellied -- don't see how it could be any of the = other few Nova Scotian snakes. From: John and Nhung=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:15 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Snake in Timberlea Did the snake have three yellowish spots around the neck? That's = diagnostic for a red-belly. They are very common, but secretive, and = are our smallest snake species. Seems to me, as well, there's usually = silver and black speckling on either side of the belly, but am not sure = if that is always present. =20 Also, if you pick one up, they tend to smear you with a characteristic = stench, similar to eau de garter snake but worse! =20 John S. =20 From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Brian Bartlett Sent: May-01-11 11:44 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] Snake in Timberlea =20 Yesterday in Timberlea, Halifax County, on the BLT trail near the = beginning of the Bluff Wilderness Trail, I saw what was for me a = puzzling snake -- about 10-12 inches long, thinner than an adult Garter = S and not striped. I gently turned part of the snake over with one stem = of my sunglasses and saw little colour difference between the top and = the belly -- a dull orange. At home I checked 3 books & 3 on-line = sources. Peterson Guide to Reptiles & Amphibians (3rd ed.) says that the = Redbelly (Red-bellied) Snake is "subject to great variations," and that = "the belly colour, normally bright red, may vary through orange to pale = yellow" -- so I'm guessing, also with process of elimination and the = resemblance of what I saw to the Redbelly in the photos on p. 309 in = Peterson and the photos (but not the illustrations) on the NS Museum = website, that this must've been a Redbelly. Those I've seen before had = genuine red bellies. (Wouldn't you know it, this was one day I hadn't = taken my camera.) If any herpitology buffs have other ideas, I'd = appreciate hearing.=20 Brian Bartlett, Halifax =20 --Boundary_(ID_LG/cAvoVfqC30A4Jk1uw+w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:v =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =3D=20 "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.7600.16766"> <STYLE><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: = 15px"=20 id=3DMailContainerBody lang=3DEN-CA leftMargin=3D0 link=3Dblue = topMargin=3D0 vLink=3Dpurple=20 CanvasTabStop=3D"true" name=3D"Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>John, Unfortunately I didn't know to look for = the three=20 yellow spots -- maybe one of those cases of not seeing what you're not = looking=20 for. My guess is that in the shade at the trail's side yellow = spots may=20 have not been terribly distinct from the orange. Certainly they're not = that=20 obvious in the photos I referred to -- they would stand out more in a = darker=20 variation. As I mentioned, process of elimination encourages me to think = it was=20 a Red-bellied -- don't see how it could be any of the other few Nova = Scotian=20 snakes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca CTRL + Click to follow link"=20 href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">John and Nhung</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:15 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca CTRL + Click to follow link" = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NatureNS] Snake in Timberlea</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=3DWordSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: = 11pt">Did=20 the snake have three yellowish spots around the neck? That=92s = diagnostic=20 for a red-belly. They are very common, but secretive, and are our = smallest=20 snake species. Seems to me, as well, there=92s usually silver and = black=20 speckling on either side of the belly, but am not sure if that is always = present.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: = 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: = 11pt">Also,=20 if you pick one up, they tend to smear you with a characteristic stench, = similar=20 to eau de garter snake but worse!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: = 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: = 11pt">John =20