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Hi Darrell, Apr 22, 2011
Hefty fines would be great provided they target those who litter and not the property owners. If I understand correctly, if someone litters a property then the owner can be fined if he fails to clean it up. In general, the owner is easier to locate than is an unknown litterbug so I expect this is the justification. But it seems to me that the owner is victimized twice by this practice.
I think education by example can be effective and is relatively cost-free. And to judge from the people with whom I have hiked, hunted or fished, even those who initially littered need to be chided only once.
Each year, when the back-seat necking season gets underway, I go prepared to collect bags of containers, wrappers etc at the entrance to my North Alton woodlot but after a while people notice that trash has gone missing and stop littering. In this way I think I have trained a few young people to refrain from littering.
When I did have time to walk, I usually went prepared with a grocery bag and rarely came out empty. I think this also helps because even slobs are less inclined to litter where litter is absent.
But the small trash is nothing compared to the rubbish along secondary highways. If you have time and patience you can locate just about anything. Our new waste management practices reduced the volume of materials going to the dumps in part by making dumps of roadsides. Until realistic waste management practices are implemented this can get only worse.
About 15 years ago I was on a Waste Management Committee, which turned out to be a waste-of-my-time committee in that members were expected to rubber-stamp the consultant's proposals, and when I objected that the proposed user fees, locked gates and too wide-spacing of disposal sites would increase roadside dumping I was told that this was an enforcement issue and our committee was not charged with enforcement. To paraphrase the better mousetrap saying, if you build a worse waste management system then the world will beat a path to impromptu dump sites.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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From: Darrell
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:26 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] Re: Litter
I pick up litter and bring out more than I take in when fishing/camping/photographing/ATVing/hunting/trapping, littering fishermen repulse me, constantly picking up after them and do notice more like myself, nothing looks better than a spotless campsite/portage, the respect shines through.
Recently cleaned up the loop road in Gay's River, disgusting, found receipt with name (what to do? 80 year old couple named, might have been grandson). I clean my section of road continually, find timed receipts from the big arch for 5:48, would be 6:30 when coming through, like to catch them on video. I hate litter and would love to see much larger fines for it. Minimum of $2000, maximum $10,000 with loss of vehicle for dumping to boot. Such a beautiful province, such a lack of concern. We need to do something about it and higher fines stiffly enforced are one thing that can and should be done.
They are looking at it elsewhere... Cigerettes butts, argh!
"But if it is passed, litter fines will increase under the Environment Protection Act, doubling today's minimum $1,000 fine to $2,000; the maximum fine goes to $3,000 from the current $2,000"
Quote taken from... http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/859071--cigarette-butt-litterers-could-see-heftier-fines
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Hefty fines would be great =
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target those who litter and not the property owners. If I =
understand=20
correctly, if someone litters a property then the owner can be fined if =
he fails=20
to clean it up. In general, the owner is easier to locate than is an =
unknown=20
litterbug so I expect this is the justification.</FONT> <FONT =
size=3D2>But it=20
seems to me that the owner is victimized twice by this =
practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I think education by example can =
be=20
effective and is relatively cost-free. And to judge from the people with =
whom I=20
have hiked, hunted or fished, even those who initially littered need to =
be=20
chided only once.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Each year, when the back-seat =
necking=20
season gets underway, I go prepared to collect bags of containers, =
wrappers etc=20
at the entrance to my North Alton woodlot but after a while people =
notice that=20
trash has gone missing and stop littering. In this way I think I have=20
trained a few young people to refrain from =
littering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> When I did have time to walk, I =
usually=20
went prepared with a grocery bag and rarely came out empty. I think this =
also=20
helps because even slobs are less inclined to litter where litter is =
absent.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> But the small trash is nothing =
compared to=20
the rubbish along secondary highways. If you have time and patience you =
can=20
locate just about anything. Our new waste management practices reduced =
the=20
volume of materials going to the dumps in part by making dumps of =
roadsides.=20
Until realistic waste management practices are implemented this can get =
only=20
worse. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> About 15 years ago I was on a =
Waste=20
Management Committee, which turned out to be a waste-of-my-time =
committee in=20
that members were expected to rubber-stamp the consultant's proposals, =
and when=20
I objected that the proposed user fees, locked gates and too =
wide-spacing=20
of disposal sites would increase roadside dumping I was told that this =
was an=20
enforcement issue and our committee was not charged with enforcement. To =
paraphrase the better mousetrap saying, if you build a worse waste =
management=20
system then the world will beat a path to impromptu dump sites. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddoabolit@northnovacable.ca=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 19, 2011 =
2:26=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] Re: =
Litter</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>I pick up litter and bring out more than =
I take in=20
when fishing/camping/photographing/ATVing/hunting/trapping, =
littering=20
fishermen repulse me, constantly picking up after them and do notice =
more like=20
myself, nothing looks better than a spotless campsite/portage, the =
respect=20
shines through. </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>Recently cleaned up the loop road in Gay's =
River,=20
disgusting, found receipt with name (what to do? 80 year old couple =
named,=20
might have been grandson). I clean my section of road continually, =
find timed=20
receipts from the big arch for 5:48, would be 6:30 when coming =
through, like=20
to catch them on video. I hate litter and would love to see much =
larger fines=20
for it. Minimum of $2000, maximum $10,000 with loss of vehicle for =
dumping to=20
boot. Such a beautiful province, such a lack of concern. We need =
to do=20
something about it and higher fines stiffly enforced are one =
thing that=20
can and should be done. </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>They are looking at it elsewhere... Cigerettes =
butts,=20
argh! </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV>"But if it is passed, litter fines will increase under the =
Environment=20
Protection Act, doubling today=92s minimum $1,000 fine to $2,000; the =
maximum=20
fine goes to $3,000 from the current $2,000"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>Quote taken from... <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/859071--cigarette-butt-li=
tterers-could-see-heftier-fines">http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/=
859071--cigarette-butt-litterers-could-see-heftier-fines</A></FONT></EM><=
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