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--_f26579fd-d250-4424-9232-260cb05aed2e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to jump in with what I've noticed over the past week with aeriel = insects. On Saturday at the lake there was a lot of insect activity on the= water=2C but the trout were not surface feeding yet. I noticed a lot of s= ome sort of insect activity yesterday around Blue Rocks. There were enough= of the black insect around that I thought it would be a grand area for mig= rants to be feeding. I also had a winged insect of some sort similar to a = mosquito=2C but different in the yard. With the cold damp weather today=2C= it must have been hard on the insect eaters that are back. =20 James R. Hirtle Bayport =20 From: marymacaulay@hotmail.com To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: RE: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepe= rs at my fen Angevine Lake Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 20:01:21 -0300 very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they= migrate then? Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canadian birds are all o= ne species...? To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers a= t my fen Angevine Lake Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300 I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capable of t= orpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-will that l= ives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long time was t= he only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw. U.S.?= =2C I believe. Other birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hummingbirds and = chimney swifts et al.? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville=20 Begin forwarded message: From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com> Date: April 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADT To: Nature Nova Scotia <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Very interesting - all this discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills = up and it seems they are the only bird known to hibernate... Is this true. = If so I can see why this one woke up. It was very noisy at the lake last = night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice. and yes ther= e is one here every year and they have been here forever as far as the "old= timers" know - resident in various spots around the lake. Sorry about the= atlas. I'm not a good birder so have not contributed to it. If people ar= e sceptical I can try and record it for you next time I'm down at the lake = and/or you can come and listen for yourself.=20 =20 Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake From: cindycreighton@gmail.com To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca With regard to lack of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we w= ere out fishing about a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland Count= y) and there was a Mayfly hatch. Cindy Creighton Springhill=2C NS On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 PM=2C James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gm= ail.com> wrote: hi folks=2C=20 I am no expert either. However=2C I do recall some very early and surprisin= g records for this species. I personally heard one near Aylesford Lake duri= ng an owl survey April 24 2009. But not again at that location that season= =2C or since. And there are some early reports in Ontario of mid to late Ap= ril. Randy=2C you make a good point about the lack of aerial insects out there r= ight now. There is some indication that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to= undergo daily torpor (at least males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe tha= t is a factor in how they could cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up = here. Recalling the recent naturens string re: bats hunting during the day = this time of year=2C I wonder if Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-rel= ated adaptations to cope with unpredictable food source this time of year.= =20 cheers=2C=20 James. On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>= wrote: I have never heard nor seen a Whip-poor-will. I would have guessed that arriving now would be quite early for most aerial= insectivores...we're just getting in the first Tree Swallow reports=2C are= n't we (I confess to not keeping up with all the sightings)? And Tree Swall= ows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps other stuff as well as air-borne insect= s?). Tufts (on line http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.htm) says= the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand that Tufts is outdated..= .but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seems odd. If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming that means it has been= there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a shame it's not documente= d on the Atlas. I'm sure that the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the one h= and=2C the call of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the bird= 's rarity and normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighting ou= t of line with what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much. Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Angevine La= ke? Thanks=2C Randy_________________________________ RF Lauff Way in the boonies of Antigonish County=2C NS. On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>wrote: Was woken at 2:30 a.m. by our resident Whip poor will. Peepers also tuning= up for the first time last night. Angevine Lake=2C Cumberland County --=20 James Churchill Kentville=2C Nova Scotia jameslchurchill@gmail.com home: (902) 681-2374 = --_f26579fd-d250-4424-9232-260cb05aed2e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Tahoma } --></style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> I'm going to jump in with what I've noticed over the past week with aeriel = insects. =3B On Saturday at the lake there was a lot of insect activity= on the water=2C =3Bbut the trout were not surface feeding yet. =3B= I noticed a =3Blot of some sort of insect activity yesterday around Bl= ue Rocks. =3B There were enough of the black insect around that I thoug= ht it would be a grand area for migrants to be feeding. =3B I also had = a winged insect of some sort similar to a mosquito=2C but different in the = yard. =3B With the cold =3Bdamp weather today=2C it must have been = hard on the insect eaters =3Bthat are back.<BR>  =3B<BR> James R. Hirtle<BR> Bayport<BR> =3B<BR> <HR id=3DstopSpelling> From: marymacaulay@hotmail.com<BR>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>Subject: R= E: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers at my f= en Angevine Lake<BR>Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 20:01:21 -0300<BR><BR> <META name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML"> <STYLE> .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px=3B} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Tahoma=3B} </STYLE> very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they= migrate then? <DIV>Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canadian birds are = all one species...?<BR><BR> <HR id=3DecxstopSpelling> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca<BR>From: jimwolford@eastl= ink.ca<BR>Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C= peepers at my fen Angevine Lake<BR>Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300= <BR><BR>I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capa= ble of torpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-wil= l that lives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long ti= me was the only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw= . U.S.?=2C I believe.  =3BOther birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hum= mingbirds and chimney swifts et al.? <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville =3B<BR> <DIV><BR> <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR class=3DecxApple-interchange-newline= > <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">= <FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size= =3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helveti= ca" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Mary Macaulay <=3B<A href=3D"mailto:marymac= aulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</A>>=3B</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">= <FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size= =3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helveti= ca" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>April 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADT</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">= <FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size= =3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica= " size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Nature Nova Scotia <=3B<A href=3D"mailto:natu= rens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>>=3B</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">= <FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size= =3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helv= etica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepe= rs at my fen Angevine Lake</B></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">= <FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size= =3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Hel= vetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca= ">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px=3B MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR></DIV><SPAN style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none=3B TEXT-I= NDENT: 0px=3B BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate=3B FONT: medium Helvetica=3B WHITE-= SPACE: normal=3B LETTER-SPACING: normal=3B COLOR: rgb(0=2C0=2C0)=3B WORD-SP= ACING: 0px" class=3DecxApple-style-span><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma= =3B FONT-SIZE: 13px" class=3DecxApple-style-span>Very interesting - all thi= s discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills up and =3Bit seems the= y are the only bird =3Bknown to hibernate... Is this true. =3B If s= o I can see why this one woke up. =3B It was very noisy at the lake las= t night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice. =3B and= yes there is one here every year and they have been here forever as far as= the "old timers" know - resident =3Bin various spots around the lake.&= nbsp=3B Sorry about the atlas. =3B I'm not a good birder so have not co= ntributed to it. =3B If people are sceptical I can try and record it fo= r you next time I'm =3Bdown at the lake and/or you can come and listen = for yourself. =3B<BR> =3B<BR> <HR id=3DecxstopSpelling> Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300<BR>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poo= r will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake<BR>From: <A href=3D"mailto:cindy= creighton@gmail.com">cindycreighton@gmail.com</A><BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:= naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR><BR>With regard to = lack of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we were out fishing= about a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland County) and there wa= s a Mayfly hatch. <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Cindy Creighton</DIV> <DIV>Springhill=2C NS<BR><BR> <DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 PM=2C James C= hurchill<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><SPAN dir=3Dl= tr><=3B<A href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail= .com</A>>=3B</SPAN><SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN>= wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204=2C204=2C204) 1px solid=3B PADDING= -LEFT: 1ex" class=3Decxgmail_quote>hi folks=2C<SPAN class=3DecxApple-conver= ted-space> =3B</SPAN><BR><BR>I am no expert either. However=2C I do rec= all some very early and surprising records for this species. I personally h= eard one near Aylesford Lake during an owl survey April 24 2009. But not ag= ain at that location that season=2C or since. And there are some early repo= rts in Ontario of mid to late April.<BR><BR>Randy=2C you make a good point = about the lack of aerial insects out there right now. There is some indicat= ion that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to undergo daily torpor (at least= males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe that is a factor in how they could= cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up here. Recalling the recent natu= rens string re: bats hunting during the day this time of year=2C I wonder i= f Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-related adaptations to cope with u= npredictable food source this time of year.<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted= -space> =3B</SPAN><BR><BR>cheers=2C<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-spa= ce> =3B</SPAN><BR><FONT color=3D#888888>James.</FONT> <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy L= auff<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><SPAN dir=3Dltr>&= lt=3Brandy.lauff@gmail.com>= =3B</SPAN><SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN>wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Decxgmail_quote> <DIV>I have never heard nor seen a Whip-poor-will.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I would have guessed that arriving now would be quite early for most a= erial insectivores...we're just getting in the first Tree Swallow reports= =2C aren't we (I confess to not keeping up with all the sightings)? And Tre= e Swallows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps other stuff as well as air-borne= insects?).</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Tufts (on line =3B<A href=3D"http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/ns= birds/bns0222.htm" target=3D_blank>http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbir= ds/bns0222.htm</A>) says the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand = that Tufts is outdated...but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seem= s odd.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming that means it has= been there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a shame it's not docu= mented on the Atlas.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I'm sure that the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the = one hand=2C the call of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the= bird's rarity and normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighti= ng out of line with what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much= .</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Angevi= ne Lake?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Thanks=2C</DIV> <DIV>Randy<BR clear=3Dall>_________________________________<BR>RF Lauff<BR>= Way in the boonies of<BR>Antigonish County=2C NS. <DIV><BR><BR><BR> <DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay<SPAN cl= ass=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><SPAN dir=3Dltr><=3B<A href= =3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</A>>=3B</SP= AN>wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Decxgmail_quote> <DIV>Was woken at 2:30 a.m. by our resident Whip poor will. =3B Peepers= also tuning up for the first time last night.<BR>Angevine Lake=2C Cumberla= nd County<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><B= R><BR clear=3Dall><BR></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3Dh5>--<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><BR= >James Churchill<BR>Kentville=2C Nova Scotia<BR><A href=3D"mailto:jameslchu= rchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</A><BR>home:<SPAN class=3DecxAp= ple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><A target=3D_blank>(902) 681-2374</A><BR= ><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN></SPAN><BR class=3Decx= Apple-interchange-newline></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV> </= body> </html>= --_f26579fd-d250-4424-9232-260cb05aed2e_--
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