[NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will , peepers

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very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they=
 migrate then?Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canadian b=
irds are all one species...?

To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca
From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca
Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers a=
t my fen Angevine Lake
Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300


I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capable of t=
orpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-will that l=
ives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long time was t=
he only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw. U.S.?=
=2C I believe.  Other birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hummingbirds and =
chimney swifts et al.?
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville=20

Begin forwarded message:From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>Date:=
 April 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADTTo: Nature Nova Scotia <naturens@chebucto.n=
s.ca>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine =
LakeReply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
 Very interesting - all this discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills=
 up and it seems they are the only bird known to hibernate... Is this true.=
  If so I can see why this one woke up.  It was very noisy at the lake last=
 night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice.  and yes the=
re is one here every year and they have been here forever as far as the "ol=
d timers" know - resident in various spots around the lake.  Sorry about th=
e atlas.  I'm not a good birder so have not contributed to it.  If people a=
re sceptical I can try and record it for you next time I'm down at the lake=
 and/or you can come and listen for yourself.=20
=20
Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake
From: cindycreighton@gmail.com
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca

With regard to lack of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we w=
ere out fishing about a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland Count=
y) and there was a Mayfly hatch.
Cindy CreightonSpringhill=2C NS

On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 PM=2C James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gm=
ail.com> wrote:
hi folks=2C=20

I am no expert either. However=2C I do recall some very early and surprisin=
g records for this species. I personally heard one near Aylesford Lake duri=
ng an owl survey April 24 2009. But not again at that location that season=
=2C or since. And there are some early reports in Ontario of mid to late Ap=
ril.

Randy=2C you make a good point about the lack of aerial insects out there r=
ight now. There is some indication that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to=
 undergo daily torpor (at least males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe tha=
t is a factor in how they could cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up =
here. Recalling the recent naturens string re: bats hunting during the day =
this time of year=2C I wonder if Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-rel=
ated adaptations to cope with unpredictable food source this time of year.=
=20

cheers=2C=20
James.



On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
I have never heard nor seen a Whip-poor-will.
I would have guessed that arriving now would be quite early for most aerial=
 insectivores...we're just getting in the first Tree Swallow reports=2C are=
n't we (I confess to not keeping up with all the sightings)? And Tree Swall=
ows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps other stuff as well as air-borne insect=
s?).
Tufts (on line http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.htm) says=
 the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand that Tufts is outdated..=
.but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seems odd.
If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming that means it has been=
 there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a shame it's not documente=
d on the Atlas.
I'm sure that the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the one h=
and=2C the call of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the bird=
's rarity and normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighting ou=
t of line with what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much.
Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Angevine La=
ke?
Thanks=2CRandy_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County=2C NS.


On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>wrote:
Was woken at 2:30 a.m. by our resident Whip poor will.  Peepers also tuning=
 up for the first time last night.
Angevine Lake=2C Cumberland County



--=20
James Churchill
Kentville=2C Nova Scotia
jameslchurchill@gmail.com
home: (902) 681-2374



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very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they=
 migrate then?<div>Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canad=
ian birds are all one species...?<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">To: nature=
ns@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca<br>From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca<br>=
Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers a=
t my fen Angevine Lake<br>Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300<br><br>
I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capable of t=
orpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-will that l=
ives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long time was t=
he only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw. U.S.?=
=2C I believe. &nbsp=3BOther birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hummingbir=
ds and chimney swifts et al.?<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in Wolfvil=
le&nbsp=3B<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"ecxA=
pple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmarg=
in-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=
=3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>From: </b><=
/font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">M=
ary Macaulay &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay=
@hotmail.com</a>&gt=3B</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin-=
bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"=
#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>Date: </b></fon=
t><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">April=
 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmar=
gin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=
=3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>To: </b></f=
ont><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">Nat=
ure Nova Scotia &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@c=
hebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt=3B</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin=
-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D=
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b>RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake</b></fo=
nt></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0=
px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.=
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ica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><a href=3D"mailto:naturens@=
chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font></div><div style=3D"margi=
n-right:0px=3Bmargin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px=3Bmin-height:14px"><br></=
div> <span class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate=
=3Bcolor:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-family:Helvetica=3Bfont-style:normal=3Bfon=
t-variant:normal=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bletter-spacing:normal=3Bline-height=
:normal=3Btext-align:auto=3Btext-indent:0px=3Btext-transform:none=3Bwhite-s=
pace:normal=3Bword-spacing:0px=3Bfont-size:medium"><span class=3D"ecxApple-=
style-span" style=3D"font-family:Tahoma=3Bfont-size:13px">Very interesting =
- all this discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills up and&nbsp=3Bit =
seems they are the only bird&nbsp=3Bknown to hibernate... Is this true.&nbs=
p=3B If so I can see why this one woke up.&nbsp=3B It was very noisy at the=
 lake last night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice.&nb=
sp=3B and yes there is one here every year and they have been here forever =
as far as the "old timers" know - resident&nbsp=3Bin various spots around t=
he lake.&nbsp=3B Sorry about the atlas.&nbsp=3B I'm not a good birder so ha=
ve not contributed to it.&nbsp=3B If people are sceptical I can try and rec=
ord it for you next time I'm&nbsp=3Bdown at the lake and/or you can come an=
d listen for yourself.&nbsp=3B<br>&nbsp=3B<br><hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">Da=
te: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300<br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poor =
will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:cindycr=
eighton@gmail.com">cindycreighton@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:na=
turens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br><br>With regard to la=
ck of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we were out fishing a=
bout a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland County) and there was =
a Mayfly hatch.<div><br></div><div>Cindy Creighton</div><div>Springhill=2C =
NS<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 P=
M=2C James Churchill<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span=
><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">james=
lchurchill@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp=3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left-color:rgb(204=2C 204=2C 204)=3Bborder-left-width:1px=3Bborder-le=
ft-style:solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex">hi folks=2C<span class=3D"ecxApple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><br><br>I am no expert either. However=2C I do r=
ecall some very early and surprising records for this species. I personally=
 heard one near Aylesford Lake during an owl survey April 24 2009. But not =
again at that location that season=2C or since. And there are some early re=
ports in Ontario of mid to late April.<br><br>Randy=2C you make a good poin=
t about the lack of aerial insects out there right now. There is some indic=
ation that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to undergo daily torpor (at lea=
st males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe that is a factor in how they cou=
ld cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up here. Recalling the recent na=
turens string re: bats hunting during the day this time of year=2C I wonder=
 if Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-related adaptations to cope with=
 unpredictable food source this time of year.<span class=3D"ecxApple-conver=
ted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><br><br>cheers=2C<span class=3D"ecxApple-converte=
d-space">&nbsp=3B</span><br><font color=3D"#888888">James.</font><div><div>=
</div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mo=
n=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy Lauff<span class=3D"ecxApple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:randy.=
lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxAp=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail=
_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex"><div>I have never heard nor seen a Whip-=
poor-will.</div><div><br></div><div>I would have guessed that arriving now =
would be quite early for most aerial insectivores...we're just getting in t=
he first Tree Swallow reports=2C aren't we (I confess to not keeping up wit=
h all the sightings)? And Tree Swallows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps oth=
er stuff as well as air-borne insects?).</div><div><br></div><div>Tufts (on=
 line&nbsp=3B<a href=3D"http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.=
htm" target=3D"_blank">http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.h=
tm</a>) says the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand that Tufts i=
s outdated...but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seems odd.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming th=
at means it has been there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a sham=
e it's not documented on the Atlas.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure that =
the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the one hand=2C the cal=
l of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the bird's rarity and =
normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighting out of line with=
 what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Ang=
evine Lake?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks=2C</div><div>Randy<br clear=3D"=
all">_________________________________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of=
<br>Antigonish County=2C NS.<div><br><br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">=
On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-sp=
ace">&nbsp=3B</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@=
hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex"><div>Was woken at 2:30=
 a.m. by our resident Whip poor will.&nbsp=3B Peepers also tuning up for th=
e first time last night.<br>Angevine Lake=2C Cumberland County<br></div></b=
lockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><b=
r></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">--<span class=3D"ecxApple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><br>James Churchill<br>Kentville=2C Nova Sco=
tia<br><a href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail.c=
om</a><br>home:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><a t=
arget=3D"_blank">(902) 681-2374</a><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div><=
br></div></span></span><br class=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"></blockqu=
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