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href=3D"mailto:naturens@ --_2b7e9778-557c-4ef2-b8d1-42ad7771a932_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they= migrate then?Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canadian b= irds are all one species...? To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers a= t my fen Angevine Lake Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300 I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capable of t= orpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-will that l= ives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long time was t= he only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw. U.S.?= =2C I believe. Other birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hummingbirds and = chimney swifts et al.? Cheers from Jim in Wolfville=20 Begin forwarded message:From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>Date:= April 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADTTo: Nature Nova Scotia <naturens@chebucto.n= s.ca>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine = LakeReply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Very interesting - all this discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills= up and it seems they are the only bird known to hibernate... Is this true.= If so I can see why this one woke up. It was very noisy at the lake last= night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice. and yes the= re is one here every year and they have been here forever as far as the "ol= d timers" know - resident in various spots around the lake. Sorry about th= e atlas. I'm not a good birder so have not contributed to it. If people a= re sceptical I can try and record it for you next time I'm down at the lake= and/or you can come and listen for yourself.=20 =20 Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake From: cindycreighton@gmail.com To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca With regard to lack of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we w= ere out fishing about a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland Count= y) and there was a Mayfly hatch. Cindy CreightonSpringhill=2C NS On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 PM=2C James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gm= ail.com> wrote: hi folks=2C=20 I am no expert either. However=2C I do recall some very early and surprisin= g records for this species. I personally heard one near Aylesford Lake duri= ng an owl survey April 24 2009. But not again at that location that season= =2C or since. And there are some early reports in Ontario of mid to late Ap= ril. Randy=2C you make a good point about the lack of aerial insects out there r= ight now. There is some indication that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to= undergo daily torpor (at least males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe tha= t is a factor in how they could cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up = here. Recalling the recent naturens string re: bats hunting during the day = this time of year=2C I wonder if Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-rel= ated adaptations to cope with unpredictable food source this time of year.= =20 cheers=2C=20 James. On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>= wrote: I have never heard nor seen a Whip-poor-will. I would have guessed that arriving now would be quite early for most aerial= insectivores...we're just getting in the first Tree Swallow reports=2C are= n't we (I confess to not keeping up with all the sightings)? And Tree Swall= ows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps other stuff as well as air-borne insect= s?). Tufts (on line http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.htm) says= the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand that Tufts is outdated..= .but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seems odd. If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming that means it has been= there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a shame it's not documente= d on the Atlas. I'm sure that the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the one h= and=2C the call of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the bird= 's rarity and normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighting ou= t of line with what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much. Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Angevine La= ke? Thanks=2CRandy_________________________________ RF Lauff Way in the boonies of Antigonish County=2C NS. On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>wrote: Was woken at 2:30 a.m. by our resident Whip poor will. Peepers also tuning= up for the first time last night. Angevine Lake=2C Cumberland County --=20 James Churchill Kentville=2C Nova Scotia jameslchurchill@gmail.com home: (902) 681-2374 = --_2b7e9778-557c-4ef2-b8d1-42ad7771a932_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Tahoma } --></style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> very interesting - do they band whip poor wills to find out where/when they= migrate then?<div>Also there is a status report out nowthat says the canad= ian birds are all one species...?<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">To: nature= ns@chebucto.ns.ca=3B GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca<br>From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca<br>= Subject: [NatureNS] re bird hibernators -- was whip-poor-will =2C peepers a= t my fen Angevine Lake<br>Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 17:37:30 -0300<br><br> I was not aware of what James wrote about male whip-poor-wills capable of t= orpor=2C but it is the poor-will=2C a relative of the whip-poor-will that l= ives in western N.Am. including southern B.C.=2C that for a long time was t= he only documented bird hibernator=2C in rock crevices=2C in the sw. U.S.?= =2C I believe.  =3BOther birds are capable of torpor=2C e.g. hummingbir= ds and chimney swifts et al.?<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in Wolfvil= le =3B<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"ecxA= pple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmarg= in-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color= =3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>From: </b><= /font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">M= ary Macaulay <=3B<a href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay= @hotmail.com</a>>=3B</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin-= bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"= #000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>Date: </b></fon= t><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">April= 18=2C 2011 3:41:11 PM ADT</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmar= gin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color= =3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>To: </b></f= ont><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica">Nat= ure Nova Scotia <=3B<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@c= hebucto.ns.ca</a>>=3B</font></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin= -bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D= "#000000" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>Subject: </b><= /font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><= b>RE: [NatureNS] Whip poor will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake</b></fo= nt></div><div style=3D"margin-right:0px=3Bmargin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0= px"><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font:12.= 0px Helvetica=3Bcolor:#000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvet= ica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica"><a href=3D"mailto:naturens@= chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font></div><div style=3D"margi= n-right:0px=3Bmargin-bottom:0px=3Bmargin-left:0px=3Bmin-height:14px"><br></= div> <span class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate= =3Bcolor:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3Bfont-family:Helvetica=3Bfont-style:normal=3Bfon= t-variant:normal=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bletter-spacing:normal=3Bline-height= :normal=3Btext-align:auto=3Btext-indent:0px=3Btext-transform:none=3Bwhite-s= pace:normal=3Bword-spacing:0px=3Bfont-size:medium"><span class=3D"ecxApple-= style-span" style=3D"font-family:Tahoma=3Bfont-size:13px">Very interesting = - all this discussion inspired me to look Whip poor Wills up and =3Bit = seems they are the only bird =3Bknown to hibernate... Is this true.&nbs= p=3B If so I can see why this one woke up. =3B It was very noisy at the= lake last night what with the wood frogs and the peepers in full voice.&nb= sp=3B and yes there is one here every year and they have been here forever = as far as the "old timers" know - resident =3Bin various spots around t= he lake. =3B Sorry about the atlas. =3B I'm not a good birder so ha= ve not contributed to it. =3B If people are sceptical I can try and rec= ord it for you next time I'm =3Bdown at the lake and/or you can come an= d listen for yourself. =3B<br> =3B<br><hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">Da= te: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:27:16 -0300<br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Whip poor = will =2C peepers at my fen Angevine Lake<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:cindycr= eighton@gmail.com">cindycreighton@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:na= turens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br><br>With regard to la= ck of aerial insects=2C I just wanted to mention that we were out fishing a= bout a week ago on the Southampton River (Cumberland County) and there was = a Mayfly hatch.<div><br></div><div>Cindy Creighton</div><div>Springhill=2C = NS<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 12:47 P= M=2C James Churchill<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span= ><span dir=3D"ltr"><=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">james= lchurchill@gmail.com</a>>=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-spac= e"> =3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"b= order-left-color:rgb(204=2C 204=2C 204)=3Bborder-left-width:1px=3Bborder-le= ft-style:solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex">hi folks=2C<span class=3D"ecxApple-conve= rted-space"> =3B</span><br><br>I am no expert either. However=2C I do r= ecall some very early and surprising records for this species. I personally= heard one near Aylesford Lake during an owl survey April 24 2009. But not = again at that location that season=2C or since. And there are some early re= ports in Ontario of mid to late April.<br><br>Randy=2C you make a good poin= t about the lack of aerial insects out there right now. There is some indic= ation that Eastern Whip-poor-wills are able to undergo daily torpor (at lea= st males=3B Lane et al. 2004)=2C and maybe that is a factor in how they cou= ld cut the unpredictable=2C hungry springs up here. Recalling the recent na= turens string re: bats hunting during the day this time of year=2C I wonder= if Whip-poor-wills also have some feeding-related adaptations to cope with= unpredictable food source this time of year.<span class=3D"ecxApple-conver= ted-space"> =3B</span><br><br>cheers=2C<span class=3D"ecxApple-converte= d-space"> =3B</span><br><font color=3D"#888888">James.</font><div><div>= </div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mo= n=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 11:16 AM=2C Randy Lauff<span class=3D"ecxApple-conve= rted-space"> =3B</span><span dir=3D"ltr"><=3B<a href=3D"mailto:randy.= lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>>=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxAp= ple-converted-space"> =3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail= _quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex"><div>I have never heard nor seen a Whip-= poor-will.</div><div><br></div><div>I would have guessed that arriving now = would be quite early for most aerial insectivores...we're just getting in t= he first Tree Swallow reports=2C aren't we (I confess to not keeping up wit= h all the sightings)? And Tree Swallows can eat bayberry fruit (perhaps oth= er stuff as well as air-borne insects?).</div><div><br></div><div>Tufts (on= line =3B<a href=3D"http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.= htm" target=3D"_blank">http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/nsbirds/bns0222.h= tm</a>) says the earliest record is of May 4th=3B I understand that Tufts i= s outdated...but a 2.5 week advance of the earliest record seems odd.</div>= <div><br></div><div>If the bird is described as resident=2C I'm assuming th= at means it has been there last year as well=2C perhaps longer? It's a sham= e it's not documented on the Atlas.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure that = the tone of my email strikes folks as skeptical. On the one hand=2C the cal= l of the Whip-poor-will is rather distinctive=2C but the bird's rarity and = normal date of arrival makes this Cumberland bird sighting out of line with= what I know. And what I know of this species isn't much.</div><div><br></d= iv><div>Any more details on this bird or the previous resident birds of Ang= evine Lake?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks=2C</div><div>Randy<br clear=3D"= all">_________________________________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of= <br>Antigonish County=2C NS.<div><br><br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">= On 18 April 2011 10:23=2C Mary Macaulay<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-sp= ace"> =3B</span><span dir=3D"ltr"><=3B<a href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@= hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</a>>=3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote= class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex"><div>Was woken at 2:30= a.m. by our resident Whip poor will. =3B Peepers also tuning up for th= e first time last night.<br>Angevine Lake=2C Cumberland County<br></div></b= lockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><b= r></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">--<span class=3D"ecxApple-c= onverted-space"> =3B</span><br>James Churchill<br>Kentville=2C Nova Sco= tia<br><a href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail.c= om</a><br>home:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space"> =3B</span><a t= arget=3D"_blank">(902) 681-2374</a><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div><= br></div></span></span><br class=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"></blockqu= ote></div><br></div></div> </body> </html>= --_2b7e9778-557c-4ef2-b8d1-42ad7771a932_--
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