[NatureNS] Eelgrass (Zostera marina) ?

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To Jim W. et al,
   it seems to me that Eelgrass cannot tolerate much silt in the water, =
even though it --paradoxically-- needs silty and shallow sea bottom to =
root in. Do we know whether the N.S. Eelgrass beds ever fully recovered =
after being nearly wiped out by the Eelgrass Wasting Disease in the =
1930's or so?  That's when the Eelgrass Limpet (Lottia alveus) became =
extinct.
   On a much happier note, I am seeing much more Eelgrass in sheltered =
and shallow parts of Halifax Harbour now that Haligonians treat much of =
their sewage...
   Dusan Soudek=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James W. Wolford=20
  To: NatureNS=20
  Cc: David Garbary=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 2:04 AM
  Subject: [NatureNS] re former brant & eelgrass & green crabs -- was =
Brant-Waterside PP


  Ken et al., I wonder if the abundance of eelgrass has changed, i.e., =
greatly reduced?, since apparently the introduced green crab can have =
such an effect because of the way it forages, by digging around the =
buried bases/roots of the plants.  I am copying this to David Garbary at =
St. F. X. Univ. for his thoughts on this.  Here in Wolfville and Grand =
Pre we used to regularly see small numbers of brant in spring in =
salt-marshes but have not seen any for many years -- likely not related =
to eelgrass or green crabs, though, because I don't remember eelgrass =
being common here -- however, perhaps someone like David might correct =
my memory re eelgrass?


  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.



  Begin forwarded message:


    From: Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca>
    Date: April 9, 2011 5:49:12 PM ADT
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Brant-Waterside PP
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca



    Ken McKenna
    Box 218 Stellarton NS
    B0K 1S0
    902 752-7644


      Hi Paul and all
      I think something must have changed to alter the migration passage =
of Brant in the last 25 years- maybe the eelgrass or whatever Brant feed =
on during migration.=20
      Holdway in his 10 year study of Pictou Co. birds from 1957-1966 =
also lists it as a common spring migrant especially in the month of =
April but also from 6 other months. In my birding in the county over the =
last 25 years of so, I have only seen a handful and others hvae also =
only seen a few. The Ponds at Merigomish are often checked and they have =
been noted a few times at Big I.=20
      Interesting the East River at New Glasgow was the sighting of a =
White-fronted Goose on the Springville Christmas bird count last Dec. =
and I check this area frequently. Good to have you comments once again =
Paul. We missed them.=20
      cheers
      Ken



      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Paul MacDonald=20
      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
      Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 5:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Brant-Waterside PP


            Hi Ken=20
            When I lived in Pictou Co ( 1970-73 ), Brant were fairly =
common in the spring. The East River below New Glasgow was a good spot. =
It was easier to hear them than see them. Also down at the Ponds in =
Merigomish they would stay til June. I haven't visited there in many =
years so I don't know if this still applies.
            It might be good to check at the Ponds mid May however.
            Paul


            --- On Sat, 4/9/11, Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca> =
wrote:


              From: Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca>
              Subject: [NatureNS] Brant-Waterside PP
              To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
              Received: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 12:28 PM



              Ken McKenna
              Box 218 Stellarton NS
              B0K 1S0
              902 752-7644



              Hi all
              Rick Ferguson and I observed a single Brant Goose at =
Waterside PP, Pictou Co. late this morning, April 9. =20
              Although not a rare bird in Shelburne Co. it is not common =
in Pictou Co
              We did not observe any Osprey yet around many of the 2010 =
nests or in Pictou Harbour and the 3 rivers entering into the harbour. =
The Glaucous Gull at Pier C in Pictou seen the last several weekends was =
not seen on 2 trips there today.=20
              There were several good clumps of Coltsfoot in bloom in =
the Abercrombie Pt. area and there has been a good clump behind the New =
Glasgow Walmart for at least 9 days now.  and Rick briefly saw a small =
orangish butterfly near the New Glasgow sewer.=20
              cheers
              Ken

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>To Jim W. <EM>et al,</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>&nbsp;&nbsp; it seems to me that Eelgrass cannot =
tolerate much=20
silt in the water, even though it --paradoxically-- needs&nbsp;silty and =
shallow=20
sea bottom to root in. Do we know whether the N.S. Eelgrass beds ever =
fully=20
recovered after being nearly wiped out by the Eelgrass Wasting Disease =
in the=20
1930's or so? &nbsp;That's when the Eelgrass Limpet (<EM>Lottia =
alveus</EM>)=20
became extinct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>&nbsp;&nbsp; On a much happier note,&nbsp;I am =
seeing much=20
more Eelgrass in sheltered and shallow parts of Halifax Harbour now that =

Haligonians treat much of their sewage...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>&nbsp;&nbsp; Dusan Soudek</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
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  Wolford</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Ddgarbary@gmail.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:dgarbary@gmail.com">David Garbary</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 10, 2011 =
2:04=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re former =
brant &amp;=20
  eelgrass &amp; green crabs -- was Brant-Waterside PP</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Ken et al., I wonder if the abundance of eelgrass has =
changed,=20
  i.e., greatly reduced?, since apparently the introduced green crab can =
have=20
  such an effect because of the way it forages, by digging around the =
buried=20
  bases/roots of the plants. &nbsp;I am copying this to David Garbary at =
St. F.=20
  X. Univ. for his thoughts on this. &nbsp;Here in Wolfville and Grand =
Pre we=20
  used to regularly see small numbers of brant in spring in salt-marshes =
but=20
  have not seen any for many years -- likely not related to eelgrass or =
green=20
  crabs, though, because I don't remember eelgrass being common here -- =
however,=20
  perhaps someone like David might correct my memory re eelgrass?
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Ken McKenna =
&lt;<A=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT=20
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2011 5:49:12 PM=20
    ADT</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT=
></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: =
</B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: =
[NatureNS]=20
    Brant-Waterside PP</B></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ken McKenna<BR>Box 218 Stellarton =
NS<BR>B0K=20
    1S0<BR>902 752-7644<BR></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Hi Paul and all</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">I think something must have =
changed to alter=20
      the migration passage of Brant in the last 25 years- maybe the =
eelgrass or=20
      whatever Brant feed on during migration. </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Holdway in his 10 year study of =
Pictou Co.=20
      birds from 1957-1966 also lists it as a common spring migrant =
especially=20
      in the month of April but also from 6 other months. In my birding =
in the=20
      county over the last 25 years of so, I have only seen a handful =
and others=20
      hvae also only seen a few. The Ponds at Merigomish are often =
checked and=20
      they have been noted a few times at Big I. </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Interesting the East River at New =
Glasgow=20
      was the sighting of a White-fronted Goose on the Springville =
Christmas=20
      bird count last Dec. and&nbsp;I check this area frequently. Good =
to have=20
      you comments once again Paul. We missed them. </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">cheers</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Ken</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dpaulrita2001@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com">Paul=20
      MacDonald</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 09, =
2011 5:02=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS]=20
      Brant-Waterside PP</DIV>
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          <TD vAlign=3Dtop>Hi Ken=20
            <DIV>When I lived in Pictou Co ( 1970-73 ), Brant were =
fairly common=20
            in the spring. The East River below New Glasgow was a good =
spot. It=20
            was easier to hear them than see them. Also down at the =
Ponds in=20
            Merigomish they would stay til June. I haven't visited there =
in many=20
            years so I don't know if this still applies.</DIV>
            <DIV>It might be good to check at the Ponds mid May =
however.</DIV>
            <DIV>Paul</DIV>
            <DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 4/9/11, Ken McKenna <I>&lt;<A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</A>&gt;</I></B>=
=20
            wrote:<BR>
            <BLOCKQUOTE=20
            style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20
              Ken McKenna &lt;<A=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</A>&gt;<BR>Subj=
ect:=20
              [NatureNS] Brant-Waterside PP<BR>To: "NatureNS" &lt;<A=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>&gt;<B=
R>Received:=20
              Saturday, April 9, 2011, 12:28 PM<BR><BR>
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              <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ken McKenna<BR>Box 218 =
Stellarton=20
              NS<BR>B0K 1S0<BR>902 752-7644<BR></FONT></DIV><FONT =
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              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Hi all</DIV>
              <DIV>Rick Ferguson and I observed a single <STRONG>Brant=20
              Goose</STRONG> at Waterside PP, Pictou Co. late this =
morning,=20
              April 9.&nbsp;=20
              <DIV>Although not a rare bird in Shelburne Co. it is not =
common in=20
              Pictou Co</DIV>We did <STRONG>not </STRONG>observe any =
Osprey yet=20
              around many of the 2010 nests or in Pictou Harbour and the =
3=20
              rivers entering into the harbour. The Glaucous Gull at =
Pier C in=20
              Pictou seen the last several weekends was <STRONG>not=20
              </STRONG>seen on 2 trips there today. </DIV>
              <DIV>There were several good clumps of Coltsfoot in bloom =
in the=20
              Abercrombie Pt. area and there has been a good clump =
behind the=20
              New Glasgow Walmart for at least&nbsp;9 days now. =
&nbsp;and Rick=20
              briefly saw a small orangish butterfly near the New =
Glasgow sewer.=20
              </DIV>
              <DIV>cheers</DIV>
              <DIV>Ken</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
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