[NatureNS] Hoary Redpoll, raven sexes, etc. Feb. 11 n. of Pt. Wms.

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Apologies for my inadvertent omission of Peter C. Smith's name below  
regarding Cyril's and P.C.'s  studies over several years on 20 years  
or so of banding data and handling the marked/banded ravens captured  
via a modified crow trap and baited with carcasses of all sorts of  
dead animals, starting in 1965 or so.  Cyril mapped his banding site  
and the sites hundreds of band returns, and the resultant map showed  
clearly that ravens are about as non-migratory as a bird species can  
get.   There were a few fairly distant movements, but most movements  
were quite local in central Nova Scotia. I trust that his map is  
still in the Acadia Biology Museum somewhere, and there was a short  
publication that resulted plus a few Honours and Masters theses at  
Acadia University.

Cheers from Jim in Wolfville

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> From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Date: February 16, 2011 1:03:56 PM AST
> To: NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Cc: Martin Willison <willison@dal.ca>
> Subject: [NatureNS] Hoary Redpoll etc. Feb. 11 n. of Pt. Wms.
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> Thanks, Martin, for your note.  Concerning ravens and sexes, long  
> ago Cyril Coldwell could not separate males from females by any  
> physical feature, including size; but Cyril's banding records  
> showed lots of incidences of clearly paired ravens he had banded  
> being trapped together over long periods of time.  The  
> interpretation of this was of mated pairs staying together perhaps  
> "for life".  Nowadays of course a drop of blood and DNA makes  
> sexing easy.  Cheers from Jim
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Martin Thomas <harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> Date: February 14, 2011 5:43:07 PM AST
>> To: "'James W. Wolford'" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
>> Subject: Hoary Redpoll
>>
>>     Dear Jim:
>>         Last Friday we had a single Hoary Redpoll at our feeders.  
>> We have had several Common Redpolls before and after the Hoary.  
>> The Hoary was very white with no streaking on the rump and the  
>> whole center of the breast a gleaming white. The beak was smaller  
>> than in the commons and the head seemed more domed. One of the  
>> commons was a male with the breast a very bright pink.
>>     We also have a pair of inseparable Ravens coming to the  
>> feeding area every day. One is distinctly lager than the other but  
>> I can't find any information on whether this is a sexual  
>> difference. At any rate the larger one often stands on guard while  
>> the smaller one feeds. Although they try to use hanging feeders  
>> they are too big by far and mostly feed on seeds scattered on the  
>> ground.
>>     We have 12 Pheasants almost every day, they come right up to  
>> the house and one female even comes on to the back porch.
>>                                                                  
>> Cheers,    Martin.
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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 Apologies for my inadvertent omission of Peter C. Smith's name below =
regarding Cyril's and P.C.'s &nbsp;studies over several years on 20 =
years or so of banding data and handling the marked/banded ravens =
captured via a modified crow trap and baited with carcasses of all sorts =
of dead animals, starting in 1965 or so. &nbsp;Cyril mapped his banding =
site and the sites hundreds of band returns, and the resultant map =
showed clearly that ravens are about as non-migratory as a bird species =
can get. &nbsp; There were a few fairly distant movements, but most =
movements were quite local in central Nova Scotia. I trust that his map =
is still in the Acadia Biology Museum somewhere, and there was a short =
publication that resulted plus a few Honours and Masters theses at =
Acadia University.<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in =
Wolfville&nbsp;<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</fon=
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#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">February 16, 2011 1:03:56 PM =
AST</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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ont></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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Helvetica"><b>[NatureNS] Hoary Redpoll etc. Feb. 11 n. of Pt. =
Wms.</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div>  Thanks, Martin, =
for your note. &nbsp;Concerning ravens and sexes, long ago Cyril =
Coldwell could not separate males from females by any physical feature, =
including size; but Cyril's banding records showed lots of incidences of =
clearly paired ravens he had banded being trapped together over long =
periods of time. &nbsp;The interpretation of this was of mated pairs =
staying together perhaps "for life". &nbsp;Nowadays of course a drop of =
blood and DNA makes sexing easy. &nbsp;Cheers from =
Jim<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: =
</b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Martin Thomas &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca">harthomas@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt=
;</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">February 14, 2011 5:43:07 PM =
AST</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">"'James W. Wolford'" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Hoary Redpoll</b></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div>   <div><span =
class=3D"411113321-14022011"><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dear Jim:</font></span></div> =
<div><span =
class=3D"411113321-14022011">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Last Friday we had a single Hoary =
Redpoll at our feeders. We have had several Common Redpolls before and =
after the Hoary. The Hoary was very white with no streaking on the rump =
and the whole center of the breast a gleaming white. The beak was =
smaller than in the commons and the head seemed more domed. One of the =
commons was a male with the breast a very bright =
pink.</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"411113321-14022011">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">We also have a pair of inseparable Ravens coming to the =
feeding area every day. One is distinctly lager than the other but I =
can't find any information on whether this is a sexual difference. At =
any rate the larger one often stands on guard while the smaller one =
feeds. Although they try to use hanging feeders they are too big by far =
and mostly feed on seeds scattered on the ground.</font></span></div> =
<div><span class=3D"411113321-14022011">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">We have 12 Pheasants almost every day, they =
come right up to the house and one female even comes on to the back =
porch.</font></span></div> <div><span =
class=3D"411113321-14022011">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Cheers,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Martin.</font></span></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br><=
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