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You are in the province where it all started Jim. Many good things start w=
est and move east but I don't think this is one of them.
=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca
Subject: [NatureNS] re "wood first" act before parliament - seems like biom=
ass issues redoubled if these moves across canada
Date: Thu=2C 4 Nov 2010 16:15:28 -0300
Mary's notes make it sound like it's too late? to get in her good suggestio=
n=2C i.e.=2C possibly amending this proposed act (Bill C-429) to mandate su=
stainable harvesting for the timber. We should all be talking to our MPs a=
bout the issues=2C and Mary has stated the case very well for older forests=
and biodiversity they support plus all the ecological services they provid=
e for us. =20
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville (temporarily in B.C. until Monday).
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>
Date: November 4=2C 2010 2:18:57 PM ADT
To: Nature Nova Scotia <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act=
before parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves acr=
oss canada
Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
I guess what you are saying doesn't comfort me. It means that they will ne=
ed to cut vastly more acreage to get the good quality that they'll need for=
the increased lumber demand. You're right that on the surface having the f=
eds building with wood may appear like a small thing - but Public Works spe=
nds several hundred million dollars a year so that's not peanuts. Renovati=
ons needed for Parliament=92s West Block alone are estimated at $800 millio=
n. Again not small potatoes. Also the intent is to use this act as a market=
ing tool to increase sales of canadian wood internationally. Strangely=2C t=
he Bloc Quebecois=2C who introduced the bill=2C have the addled notion that=
building with wood will help reduce green-house gases. How on earth does =
it do that? It takes upwards of 50 years to regrow a good lumber tree up h=
ere so cutting them down hurts=3B especially when you add in accelerated so=
il oxidation caused by the clear cutting you'll need to do to get enough hi=
gh quality timber to feed this new market. Anyway I have little sympathy fo=
r the industry. Apparently the government has spent about $1.5 billion in t=
he past several years propping it up. It would be a different thing perhaps=
if the bill stated that the wood used must be harvested sustainably. I wo=
rry about old growth and near old growth stands that will be targeted if th=
is is passed. =20
=20
From: dwebster@glinx.com
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act=
before parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves acr=
oss canada
Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:37:23 -0300
Hi Mary & All=2C Nov 3=2C 2010
Briefly=2C forestry is a primary industry and primary industries genera=
te the wealth that pay all bills. Sort of like photosynthesis in the tradit=
ional Biological economy. So it is in everyone's interest to have a prosper=
ous forestry industry.
=20
Currently=2C for a host of reasons that are beyond the scope of Naturen=
s=2C it is far from prosperous. An economic study of world-wide pulp produc=
tion (about 2005 I think and expressed as cost per unit round wood landed a=
t the mill) showed Atlantic Canada to have higher costs than any other pulp=
producing area.
=20
To access good quality timber it is usually necessary/desirable to cut =
the low grade wood as well and it helps generate profit if there is a marke=
t=2C such as pulp for this wood.
=20
As you may have noticed=2C pulp mills have been closing or threatening =
to close unless they get power breaks etc. The implosion of Abitibi Paper [=
where 100 shares had a market value of about $1000 in 2003 and=2C after giv=
ing effect to the Abitibi-Bowater amalgamation where one Ab share became 0.=
06261 AB share in 2007=2C the resultant 6.261 shares now sell=2C at $0.035/=
share for=2C ~$0.22=3B a rather dramatic loss of 99.978% over 7 years] is =
one measure of the perfect storm that has hit the pulp industry.
=20
In addition the financial meltdown of 2008 has decreased the demand & p=
rice for lumber so the forest industry has had some very tough years on the=
heels of tough years and I expect many have had to sell their equipment fo=
r a song & move on.
=20
Yt=2C Dave Webster=2C Kentville
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Macaulay
To: Nature Nova Scotia
Sent: Wednesday=2C November 03=2C 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act bef=
ore parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves across =
canada
the "wood first" act - Bill C-429 has already gone through it's first readi=
ng and through committee and looks like it may become law very soon:=20
=20
It mandates government to prefer wood for any and all projects:
=20
"amend the Department of Public Works and Government Services Act (use of w=
ood) by adding the following after subsection (1):
(1.1) Despite subsection (1)=2C before soliciting bids for the construction=
=2C maintenance or repair of public works=2C federal immovables and federa=
l real property=2C the Minister shall give preference to the concept that p=
romotes the use of wood=2C while taking into account the cost and greenhous=
e gas emissions."
=20
This started in BC where it is now law and is beginning to be adopted and/o=
r looked at by other jurisdictions.
=20
Can this be good - interested in other people's opinions. I just feel our =
forests are being threatened on every level.
=20
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You are in the province where it all started Jim. =3B Many good things =
start west and move east but I don't think this is one of them.<BR> =3B=
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To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>From: jimwolford@eastlink.ca<BR>Subject: [Na=
tureNS] re "wood first" act before parliament - seems like biomass issues r=
edoubled if these moves across canada<BR>Date: Thu=2C 4 Nov 2010 16:15:28 -=
0300<BR><BR>Mary's notes make it sound like it's too late? to get in her go=
od suggestion=2C i.e.=2C possibly amending this proposed act (Bill C-429) t=
o mandate sustainable harvesting for the timber.  =3BWe should all be t=
alking to our MPs about the issues=2C and Mary has stated the case very wel=
l for older forests and biodiversity they support plus all the ecological s=
ervices they provide for us.  =3B
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville (temporarily in B.C. until Monday).<BR>
<DIV><BR>
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<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
<FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size=
=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helveti=
ca" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Mary Macaulay <=3B<A href=3D"mailto:marymac=
aulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</A>>=3B</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
<FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size=
=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helveti=
ca" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>November 4=2C 2010 2:18:57 PM ADT</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
<FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size=
=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=
" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Nature Nova Scotia <=3B<A href=3D"mailto:natu=
rens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>>=3B</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
<FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size=
=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helv=
etica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>RE: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned=
about the "wood first" act before parliament - seems like biomass issues r=
edoubled if these moves across canada</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
<FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica=3B COLOR: #000000" color=3D#000000 size=
=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Hel=
vetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px=3B MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px=3B MARGIN-LEFT: 0px=3B=
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR></DIV><SPAN style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none=3B TEXT-I=
NDENT: 0px=3B BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate=3B FONT: medium Helvetica=3B WHITE-=
SPACE: normal=3B LETTER-SPACING: normal=3B COLOR: rgb(0=2C0=2C0)=3B WORD-SP=
ACING: 0px" class=3DecxApple-style-span><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma=
=3B FONT-SIZE: 24px" class=3DecxApple-style-span>I guess what you are sayin=
g doesn't comfort me. =3B It means that they will need to =3Bcut va=
stly more =3Bacreage =3Bto get the good quality that they'll need f=
or the increased lumber demand. =3BYou're right that on the surface&nbs=
p=3Bhaving the feds building with wood may appear like a small thing - but =
Public Works =3Bspends several hundred =3Bmillion dollars a year&nb=
sp=3Bso that's not peanuts. =3B Renovations needed for Parliament=92s W=
est Block alone are estimated at $800 million. Again not small potatoes. Al=
so the intent is to use this act =3Bas a marketing tool to increase sal=
es of canadian wood internationally. =3BStrangely=2C the Bloc Quebecois=
=2C who introduced the bill=2C have the addled notion that building with wo=
od will help reduce green-house gases. =3B How on earth does it do that=
? =3B It takes upwards of 50 years to regrow a good lumber tree up here=
so cutting them down hurts=3B especially when you add in accelerated soil =
oxidation caused by the clear cutting you'll need to do to get enough high =
quality timber to feed this new market. Anyway I have little sympathy for t=
he industry. Apparently the government has spent about =3B$1.5 billion =
in the past several years propping it up. =3BIt would be a different th=
ing perhaps if the bill stated that the wood used must be harvested sustain=
ably. =3B I worry about =3Bold growth and near old growth stands th=
at will be targeted if this is passed. =3B =3B<BR> =3B<BR>
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From: dwebster@glinx.com<BR>To: <=
A href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR>Su=
bject: Re: [NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wood first" act b=
efore parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if these moves acros=
s canada<BR>Date: Wed=2C 3 Nov 2010 21:37:23 -0300<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Mary &=3B All=2C =3B =3B =3B &nbs=
p=3B =3B =3B  =3B =3B =3B  =3B =3B =3B Nov =
3=2C 2010</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Briefly=2C forestry is a p=
rimary industry and primary industries generate the wealth that pay all bil=
ls. Sort of like photosynthesis in the traditional Biological economy. So i=
t is in everyone's interest to have a prosperous forestry industry.</FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Currently=2C for a host of=
 =3Breasons that =3Bare beyond the scope of Naturens=2C =3Bit i=
s far from prosperous. An economic study of world-wide pulp production (abo=
ut 2005 I think and expressed as cost per unit round wood landed at the mil=
l) showed Atlantic Canada to have higher costs than any other pulp producin=
g area.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B To access good quality tim=
ber it is usually necessary/desirable to cut the low grade wood as well and=
it helps generate profit if there is a market=2C such as pulp for this&nbs=
p=3B wood.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B As you may have noticed=2C=
pulp mills have been closing or threatening to close unless they get power=
breaks etc. The implosion of Abitibi Paper [where 100 shares had a market =
value of about $1000 in 2003 and=2C after giving effect to the Abitibi-Bowa=
ter amalgamation where one Ab share became 0.06261 AB share in 2007=2C the =
resultant 6.261 shares =3Bnow sell=2C =3Bat $0.035/share for=2C &nb=
sp=3B~$0.22=3B a rather dramatic loss of 99.978% over 7 years] is one measu=
re of the perfect storm that has hit the pulp industry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B In addition the financial =
meltdown of 2008 has decreased the demand &=3B price for lumber so the f=
orest industry has had some very tough years on the heels of tough years&nb=
sp=3Band I expect many have had to sell their equipment for a song &=3B =
move on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> =3B</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =3B =3B =3B Yt=2C Dave Webster=2C Kent=
ville</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228=2C228=2C228)=3B FONT: 10pt arial"><=
B>From:</B><SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><A title=
=3Dmarymacaulay@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">Mary M=
acaulay</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-=
space> =3B</SPAN><A title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:natu=
rens@chebucto.ns.ca">Nature Nova Scotia</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=3DecxApple-converte=
d-space> =3B</SPAN>Wednesday=2C November 03=2C 2010 4:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=3DecxApple-conve=
rted-space> =3B</SPAN>[NatureNS] is anyone else concerned about the "wo=
od first" act before parliament - seems like biomass issues redoubled if th=
ese moves across canada</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>the "wood first" act - Bill C-429 has already gone through i=
t's first reading and through committee and looks like it may become law ve=
ry soon:<SPAN class=3DecxApple-converted-space> =3B</SPAN><BR> =3B<=
BR>It mandates government to prefer wood for any and all projects:<BR> =
=3B<BR>"amend the Department of Public Works and Government Services Act (u=
se of wood) by adding the following after subsection (1):<BR>(1.1) Despite =
subsection (1)=2C before soliciting bids for the construction =2C maintenan=
ce or repair of public works=2C federal immovables and federal real propert=
y=2C the Minister shall give preference to the concept that promotes the us=
e of wood=2C while taking into account the cost and greenhouse gas emission=
s."<BR> =3B<BR>This started in BC where it is now law and is beginning =
to be adopted and/or looked at by other jurisdictions.<BR> =3B<BR>Can t=
his be good - interested in other people's opinions. =3B I just feel ou=
r forests are being threatened on every level.<BR> =3B<BR> =3B<BR>
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