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Hi Steve & All, Oct 3, 2010 Haldane appears to have ignored the debates, in Roger Bacon's time, about how many angels could sit on the head of a pin. These tiny angels could no doubt fly with ease but how would an illustrator get one to sit still long enough to be painted ? Probably why they painted only large angels. On a related matter, I continue to marvel at how much air time a typical insect can log on tiny sips of food. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Shaw" <srshaw@DAL.CA> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Wasp question (long) > In the same vein, the mathematical biologist (also atheist) J B S > Haldane once used this scaling example to argue mischievously that the > angels illustrated in medieval manuscripts or renaissance paintings > could not have existed physically as depicted: to allow a man-sized > angel to fly even with the wings shown (lift area, L-squared) would > have required a breast-bone stretching down to the ground, to > accommodate the necessary volume of muscle (L-cubed) required to power > those wings in flapping flight for take-off. The many pictures of > angels never show such exaggerated breast-bones. The argument would > fail if the angels concerned were the size of hummingbirds, but this > seems not to have been among the medieval illustrators' assumptions. >
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