[NatureNS] re positives and rights of Poison Ivy

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From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:24:22 -0300
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I can't sit back and watch these comments without putting in a plug =20
for biodiversity (vive la differences) and for native flora species, =20
all of which have rights to existence.  We naturalists should take =20
the trouble to show people how to identify problematic plants like =20
poison ivy.  For those who lose sleep about contacting this plant, =20
stay away from beaches in the Antigonish area!  And, like David says =20
below, it may be spotty in distribution but can be very abundant =20
where it does occur.

Cheers from Jim in Wolfville

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> From: "Paul S. Boyer" <psboyer@eastlink.ca>
> Date: August 27, 2010 10:11:05 AM ADT
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: Poison Ivy: was Re: [NatureNS] blackfly bites, or what =20=

> are they
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> By all means, kill it off.  Pick you choice of method: weed-spray, =20
> atomic weapons =97 but get rid of it.
>
> Leaving it there is like refusing to treat a disease because =20
> another germ might move it.
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:32 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul & All,                    Aug 26, 2010
>>   Poison Ivy Is relatively common in the eastern half of Kings Co. =20=

>> but can be readily missed even here because the plant distribution =20=

>> is highly clustered; e.g. 4 patches of cheek-to-jowl plants that =20
>> total 2000 sq paces in 50 acres.
>>
>>   It can be an irritation but even if one could eradicate some =20
>> patches at great cost, the resultant bare ground would simply give =20=

>> more invasive plants a toehold.
>>
>> YT, DW, Kentville
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Boyer" =20
>> <psboyer@eastlink.ca>
>> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] blackfly bites, or what are they
>>
>>
>>> I would rule out the chiggers and the poison ivy.  I am very =20
>>> familiar with both.
>>>
>>> The chigger bites I have experienced are never in the spaced, =20
>>> constellation-distribution you describe.  They also are unlikely =20
>>> to be on open parts of the legs, but rather where clothing is =20
>>> tight, like around the belt-line.
>>>
>>> Poison ivy produces irregular areas of reaction, depending on =20
>>> where the oil from the leaves (and other parts of the plant) has =20
>>> made contact. There is some poison ivy in Nova Scotia, but it is =20
>>> relatively uncommon: I have had to point it out to many long-time =20=

>>> residents.  In my opinion, it should be treated as a noxious =20
>>> plant, and should be eliminated as quickly as possible wherever =20
>>> it is found.
>>>
>>> The location of the spots on your legs suggests more some nettle-=20
>>> like plant, for some of the various biting insects which have =20
>>> been suggested would just as likely have bitten your arms, next, =20
>>> and upper body parts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Martin Alpert wrote:
>>>
>>>> I walked last thurs into North River Fall, in shorts.
>>>> On my lower leg I had quite a few, what looked like, black fly =20
>>>> bites. Some 40 on each leg, randomly spaced - not like I brushed =20=

>>>> into some noxious plant.
>>>> Usually they are no problem and the next day they are almost gone.
>>>> These itch a little.
>>>> Today is Sunday and there really red and slightly raised.
>>>> Anybody know what happened?
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>
>>
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I can't sit back and watch these comments without putting in a plug for =
biodiversity (vive la differences) and for native flora species, all of =
which have rights to existence. &nbsp;We naturalists should take the =
trouble to show people how to identify problematic plants like poison =
ivy. &nbsp;For those who lose sleep about contacting this plant, stay =
away from beaches in the Antigonish area! &nbsp;And, like David says =
below, it may be spotty in distribution but can be very abundant where =
it does occur.<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in =
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