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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wh9jwcf0mXqYBoOtf3p99A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have to agree with Randy and Jim, that was a predator/prey interaction and livetrapping and releasing wildlife never works out well for that animal or its young if they have any. Most relocated animals are either killed by inhabitants of the new territory, try to get back to their old territory, or do poorly and often die in their new territory as they arent familiar with the food resources and often cant fight for the new territory. This has been proven scientifically with satellite tagged animals. It is always better to practice exclusion or to discourage in a non-lethal way my 2 cents only Helene Helene Van Doninck DVM Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre RR#1 Brookfield Nova Scotia Canada B0N1C0 hvandoninck@eastlink.ca www.cwrc.net <http://cwrcblog.blogspot.com/> 1-902-893-0253 Join us on June 19 at Kegger's for the 2nd Annual Wildlife Benefit Concert and Silent Auction -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]On Behalf Of Randy Lauff Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:02 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Murder by Chipmunk I agree with Jim, and I've said it before in this forum (and received angry responses)..."predation" is not "murder". Live trapping the chipmunk, and relocating it, will result in a slow death by starvation of its young. And that is closer to murder than anything the chipmunk did. Sincerely, Randy On 17 May 2010 23:42, James Hirtle <jrhbirder@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi all: As a follow up I received another email. There were two young left which were later murdered also by the chipmunk. The issue with the intruder has been taken care of as suggested with a live trap. The pair appear to be attempting a re-nest. We shall see. Sincerely, James R. Hirtle Bayport > From: psboyer@eastlink.ca > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: [NatureNS] Murder by Chipmunk > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:21:02 -0400 > > In the case of the grieving Nuthatches, please tell your friend not to > plug the hole!! The birds may try again this season. He could put out > a trap for the murderous Chipmunk (with peanut butter for bait). > > Also, tell him to put up a nest box with a predator guard. Nuthatches > and other cavity-nesters will use nest boxes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30 days of prizes to be won with Hotmail. Enter here -- _________________________________ RF Lauff Way in the boonies of Antigonish County, NS. --Boundary_(ID_wh9jwcf0mXqYBoOtf3p99A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.17023" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=750281516-21052010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have to agree with Randy and Jim, that was a predator/prey interaction and livetrapping and releasing wildlife never works out well for that animal or its young if they have any. Most relocated animals are either killed by inhabitants of the new territory, try to get back to their old territory, or do poorly and often die in their new territory as they arent familiar with the food resources and often cant fight for the new territory. This has been proven scientifically with satellite tagged animals. It is always better to practice exclusion or to discourage in a non-lethal way</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=750281516-21052010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=750281516-21052010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>my 2 cents only</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=750281516-21052010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Helene</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Helene Van Doninck DVM</FONT><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre</FONT><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>RR#1 Brookfield Nova Scotia Canada B0N1C0</FONT><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>hvandoninck@eastlink.ca</FONT><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>www.cwrc.net</FONT><FONT face=Arial><BR><U></U></FONT><U><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><<A href="http://cwrcblog.blogspot.com/" target=_blank>http://cwrcblog.blogspot.com/</A>></FONT></U><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>1-902-893-0253</FONT><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Join us on June 19 at Kegger's for the 2nd Annual Wildlife Benefit Concert and Silent Auction</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Randy Lauff<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] Murder by Chipmunk<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I agree with Jim, and I've said it before in this forum (and received angry responses)..."predation" is not "murder". <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Live trapping the chipmunk, and relocating it, will result in a slow death by starvation of its young. And that is closer to murder than anything the chipmunk did.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV> <DIV>Randy<BR><BR> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On 17 May 2010 23:42, James Hirtle <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jrhbirder@hotmail.com">jrhbirder@hotmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <DIV>Hi all:<BR> <BR>As a follow up I received another email. There were two young left which were later murdered also by the chipmunk. The issue with the intruder has been taken care of as suggested with a l