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--Boundary_(ID_RrA5h5MSv+NvjjaNr6ip+g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Bob and Angela, The diurnal cycle certainly triggers the start of northward migration in many neotropical migrants. However temperature thermoclines play a role in how fast the northern advancement takes place for a number of species. They undoubtedly also play a role in how far south non-neotropical species go in the fall/winter as well. Such a small sample size of observations (4) over such a short time frame (2009-2010) can not really be used to indicate what is going on though. Using data from Journey North and from NS Birds, a different view exists. In 2000 there was a sighting reported to Journey North April 18 but it wasn't until May 6 that any more sightings were sent in (15 sightings were reported between May 6-8). The ones reported to NSBS in that year were in a similar range, most showing up the start of the second week in May. In 2004 the majority of sightings for Journey North and NS Birds come from the first week in May range. Using the majority of sightings for 2000 or 2004 as a base, sightings are much earlier last year than then. Is this apparent migration shift an example of a historical cycle that has been repeating for hundreds of years, is it a long-term trend indicating a change from what is to be expected or is it simply randomness? For myself I feel that climate change has an effect on birds and their migration. If someone has the time, going back through NS Birds past issues for hummingbird sightings for the last 40 years might prove insightful. As Hans has pointed out, this year's warm weather appears to have allowed Ruby-throated Hummingbirds to appear much further north than this time last year. However, the weather has gotten colder again and this may delay their appearance in NS to a point where they may show up in the same range of dates that they did last year. I'm looking forward to hearing when the majority of hummers are reported this year. All the best, Lance ==================== Lance Laviolette Glen Robertson, Ont. ==================== ________________________________ From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Bob McDonald Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:01 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird If you look carefully at the maps for 2009 and for 2010, so far, there is not really a significant difference as far as Canada is concerned. Last year at this time, there had been 2 reports in Canada (s. Ontario), while this year there have been 4 reports. Is this significant? I don't think so. As far as NS is concerned, there are no reports yet for 2010 while in 2009 the first reports came on April 20, 22, 22, 23. April 20 is only 11 days away. Most migrating birds time their migration according to the diurnal cycle (the length of the day) so just because we are experiencing late spring-like weather here does not necessarily mean birds will arrive here early. Those outliers which do arrive "early", like the Ruby-crowned Kinglet that Suzanne and I saw and heard last Tuesday, may be more readily noticed since it was singing in the warm sunshine. Overall, I am sceptical that our unseasonably warm weather here has any effect on the arrival timing of migrating birds. Cheers, Bob McDonald Halifax ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Toom <mailto:Htoom@hfx.eastlink.ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird Hi all, The Ruby-throated Hummingbirds are about 1400 kilometres further north this year than last year. Last year they were crossing the North Carolina border in early April while this year they are probably in Maine already. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Joudrey* <mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird Hello all. I was wondering what the earliest date was that you first noticed a hummingbird ( from last spring ). Unless I read the map wrong on hummingbird.net, it looks like they are later this year? ( I was showing a student the web page and it is totally possible that I didn't see it correctly ) Angela Grade 4/5 Falmouth District School --Boundary_(ID_RrA5h5MSv+NvjjaNr6ip+g) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18904"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=102235918-09042010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Hi Bob and Angela,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=102235918-09042010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=102235918-09042010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>The diurnal cycle certainly triggers the start of northward migration in many neotropical migrants. However temperature thermoclines play a role in how fast the northern advancement takes place for a number of species. They undoubtedly also play a role in how far south non-neotropical species go in the fall/winter as well. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>S</SPAN><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>uch a small sample size of observations (4) over such a short time frame (2009-2010) can not really be used to indicate what is going on though. Using data from Journey North and from NS Birds, a different view exists. In 2000 there was a sighting reported to Journey North April 18 but it wasn't until May 6 that any more sightings were sent in (15 sightings were reported between May 6-8). The ones reported to NSBS in that year were in a similar range, most showing up the start of the second week in May. In 2004 the majority of sightings for Journey North and NS Birds come from the first week in May range. Using the majority of sightings for 2000 or 2004 as a base, sightings are much earlier last year than then. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>Is this apparent migration shift an example of a historical cycle that has been repeating for hundreds of years, is it a long-term trend indicating a change from what is to be expected or is it simply randomness? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>For myself I feel that climate change has an effect on birds and their migration. If someone has the time, going back through NS Birds past issues for hummingbird sightings for the last 40 years might prove insightful.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>As Hans has pointed out, this year's warm weather appears to have allowed Ruby-throated Hummingbirds to appear much further north than this time last year. However, the weather has gotten colder again and this may delay their appearance in NS to a point where they may show up in the same range of dates that they did last year.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>I'm looking forward to hearing when the majority of hummers are reported this year.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>All the best,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010>Lance</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=102235918-09042010><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">====================</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Lance Laviolette</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Glen Robertson, Ont.</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">====================</FONT></SPAN> </P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR> <DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bob McDonald<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 09, 2010 2:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>If you look carefully at the maps for 2009 and for 2010, so far, there is not really a significant difference as far as Canada is concerned.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Last year at this time, there had been 2 reports in Canada (s. Ontario), while this year there have been 4 reports. Is this significant? I don't think so. As far as NS is concerned, there are no reports yet for 2010 while in 2009 the first reports came on April 20, 22, 22, 23. April 20 is only 11 days away.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Most migrating birds time their migration according to the diurnal cycle (the length of the day) so just because we are experiencing late spring-like weather here does not necessarily mean birds will arrive here early. Those outliers which do arrive "early", like the Ruby-crowned Kinglet that Suzanne and I saw and heard last Tuesday, may be more readily noticed since it was singing in the warm sunshine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Overall, I am sceptical that our unseasonably warm weather here has any effect on the arrival timing of migrating birds.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Bob McDonald</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Halifax</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Htoom@hfx.eastlink.ca href="mailto:Htoom@hfx.eastlink.ca">Hans Toom</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 09, 2010 12:22 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The <STRONG>Ruby-throated Hummingbirds</STRONG> are about 1400 kilometres further north this year than last year. Last year they were crossing the North Carolina border in early April while this year they are probably in Maine already.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hans</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=aljoudrey@eastlink.ca href="mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca">Angela Joudrey*</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 09, 2010 11:54 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] earliest hummingbird</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 16px">Hello all.<BR _moz_dirty=""><BR _moz_dirty="">I was wondering what the earliest date was that you first noticed a hummingbird ( from last spring ). <BR _moz_dirty=""><BR _moz_dirty="">Unless I read the map wrong on hummingbird.net, it looks like they are later this year? ( I was showing a student the web page and it is totally possible that I didn't see it correctly )<BR _moz_dirty=""><BR _moz_dirty="">Angela<BR _moz_dirty="">Grade 4/5<BR _moz_dirty="">Falmouth District School<BR><BR _moz_dirty=""></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_RrA5h5MSv+NvjjaNr6ip+g)--
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