[NatureNS] NS Provincial Pesticide Ban

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I for one will not be supporting the ban. I am tried of people telling me what to do with my property. If used has directed  there should be no problem

                                                                                             S Riggs
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  From: David & Alison Webster 
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] NS Provincial Pesticide Ban


  Hi Suzanne & All,                Mar 2, 2010
      While I have, from the first, maintained that use of pesticides for cosmetic purposes is an obsene misuse of technology I think a ban is undesirable for a host of reasons.

      Foremost among these is validation, by a ban, of the entirely false premise that pesticides are hazardous to human health even if used as directed. 

      Establishing policy on the basis of falsehood is a slippery slope that could lead in time e.g. to banning of pesticide for all uses; starvation is detrimental to health. [See Irish Potato Famine and social history up to mid 19th century.]

      Figure 8 in Baxter & Ramlo ( 1998, What can you expect ? Life expectancy in Canada, 1921-2021) shows a continuous increase in life expectancy from 1831 (39 years) onward. Since pesticides were introduced in the early 40s L.E. has increased from 64.6 years in 1941 to 77.6 years in 1991. More recent figures from a World Life Expectancy Chart
  http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa042000b.htm
  show L.E. to be 79.2 and 79.4 years in 1998 and 2000 respectively.

      If pesticides are detrimental to human health then why has L.E. increased by 23% over the last 6 decades ?

      Clearly pesticides are detrimental to the targets; weeds or insects. But a mania for frequently mowed grass monoculture also detracts from spatial biodiversity. A shift in values will in the long run be more effective than a ban that addresses only one aspect of the overmanaged yard.
  Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Suzanne Townsend 
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
    Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:55 AM
    Subject: [NatureNS] NS Provincial Pesticide Ban


    NS Provincial Pesticide Ban - TAKE ACTION NOW to make it happen! 


    If you haven't yet responded to the consultation on whether to ban lawn pesticides throughout NS, there is just two weeks left to let the government know --


    YES, WE WANT A BAN ON SALE AND USE OF UNNECESSARY LAWN PESTICIDES.


    The government's consultation on whether to ban lawn pesticides ends March 7. The Landscape Industry is hard at work spreading misinformation to oppose the ban. You may have seen the article from Landscape Nova Scotia in the Chronicle Herald with the claim that vinegar is twice as toxic as Roundup.


    We need everyone who supports a ban to respond to the consultation. NUMBERS COUNT!


    PLEASE, take a minute right now to reply to the consultation with this core message:


     "I agree that NS should ban the sale and use of cosmetic pesticides. Cosmetic pesticides pose an unnecessary risk to our health and our environment."


    Then add a sentence (or more) that reflects why YOU care about this issue. Are you a parent, a grandparent, a health professional, a person with chemical sensitivities or asthma, a cancer survivor, a person who wants a healthier planet - maybe all of the above.

    Send your message to 
    Email to Policy@gov.ns.ca
    Phone: 1-888-320-0555    
    Fax: (902) 424-0644 
     or respond on line at https://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/comments.asp

    The government's position paper is available on line at http://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/discussing.pesticides.asp.


    Check out the Cancer Society's Pesticide Free video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU24HbMxwcE .


    But first, SEND YOUR EMAIL TO THE GOVERNMENT! If you have responded already, thanks.  


    Please pass this on to anyone you know who wants a healthier environment in Nova Scotia.







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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I for one will not be supporting the ban. I am 
tried of people telling me what to do with my property. If used has directed 
&nbsp;there should be no problem</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
S Riggs</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=dwebster@glinx.com href="mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David &amp; 
  Alison Webster</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:06 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] NS Provincial 
  Pesticide Ban</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Suzanne &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mar 2, 
  2010</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; While I have, from the first, 
  maintained that use of pesticides for cosmetic purposes is an 
  obsene&nbsp;misuse of technology I&nbsp;think a ban is undesirable for a host 
  of reasons.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Foremost among these 
  is&nbsp;validation, by a ban,&nbsp;of the entirely false premise that 
  pesticides are&nbsp;hazardous to human health even if used as directed. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Establishing policy on the 
  basis of falsehood is a slippery slope that could lead in time e.g. to banning 
  of pesticide for all&nbsp;uses; starvation is detrimental to health. [See 
  Irish Potato Famine and social history up to mid 19th century.]</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Figure 8 in Baxter &amp; Ramlo 
  (&nbsp;1998, What can you expect ? Life expectancy in Canada, 1921-2021) shows 
  a continuous increase in life expectancy&nbsp;from 1831 (39 years) 
  onward.&nbsp;Since pesticides were introduced in the early 40s&nbsp;L.E. has 
  increased from&nbsp;64.6 years in 1941 to&nbsp;77.6 years in 1991. More recent 
  figures from a World Life Expectancy Chart</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A 
  href="http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa042000b.htm">http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa042000b.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>show L.E. to be 79.2 and 79.4 years in 1998 and 
  2000 respectively.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If pesticides are detrimental 
  to human health then why has L.E. increased by 23% over the last 6 decades 
  ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clearly pesticides are 
  detrimental to the targets; weeds or&nbsp;insects. But a mania for frequently 
  mowed grass monoculture also detracts from spatial biodiversity. A shift in 
  values will in the long run be more effective than a ban that addresses only 
  one aspect of the overmanaged yard.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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  style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=suzanne.townsend@gmail.com 
    href="mailto:suzanne.townsend@gmail.com">Suzanne Townsend</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
    href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 01, 2010 11:55 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] NS Provincial 
    Pesticide Ban</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV class=gmail_quote>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>NS Provincial Pesticide Ban - TAKE ACTION NOW to 
    make it happen!</FONT></STRONG> 
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">If you haven't yet responded to the 
    consultation on whether to ban lawn pesticides throughout NS, there is just 
    two weeks left to let the government know --</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">YES, WE WANT A BAN ON SALE AND USE OF 
    UNNECESSARY LAWN PESTICIDES.</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">The government's consultation on whether to ban 
    lawn pesticides <B>ends March 7</B>. The Landscape Industry is hard at work 
    spreading misinformation to oppose the ban. You may have seen the article 
    from Landscape Nova Scotia in the Chronicle Herald with the claim that 
    vinegar is twice as toxic as Roundup.</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">We need everyone who supports a ban to respond 
    to the consultation. NUMBERS COUNT!</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">PLEASE, take a minute right now to reply to the 
    consultation with this core message:</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><B><BR></B></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><B>&nbsp;"I agree that NS should ban the sale 
    and use of cosmetic pesticides. Cosmetic pesticides pose an unnecessary risk 
    to our health and our environment."</B></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><B><BR></B></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><B>Then add a sentence (or more) that reflects 
    why YOU care about this issue. Are you a parent, a grandparent, a health 
    professional, a person with chemical sensitivities or asthma, a cancer 
    survivor, a person who wants a healthier planet - maybe all of the 
    above.</B></DIV><BR style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Send your message to&nbsp;</SPAN><BR 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Email 
    to&nbsp;</SPAN><A style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" href="mailto:Policy@gov.ns.ca" 
    target=_blank><FONT color=#0068cf>Policy@gov.ns.ca</FONT></A><BR 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Phone: 1-888-320-0555 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN> 
    <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Fax: (902) 424-0644</SPAN> 
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">&nbsp;or respond on line at&nbsp;<A 
    href="https://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/comments.asp" target=_blank><FONT 
    color=#0068cf>https://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/comments.asp</FONT></A><BR><BR>The 
    government's position paper is available on line at&nbsp;<A 
    href="http://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/discussing.pesticides.asp" 
    target=_blank><FONT 
    color=#0068cf>http://www.gov.ns.ca/nse/pests/discussing.pesticides.asp</FONT></A>.<BR><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Check out the Cancer Society's Pesticide Free 
    video on YouTube&nbsp;<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU24HbMxwcE" 
    target=_blank><FONT 
    color=#0068cf>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU24HbMxwcE</FONT></A>&nbsp;.</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">But first, SEND YOUR EMAIL TO THE GOVERNMENT! 
    If you have responded already, thanks. &nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><B>Please pass this on to anyone you know who 
    wants a healthier environment in Nova Scotia.</B></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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