[NatureNS] re grebes on Wallace Bay Field Trip

Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:19:00 -0300
From: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
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> From: Gayle MacLean <duartess2003@yahoo.ca>
> Date: July 19, 2009 9:12:29 PM ADT
> To: "James W. Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: Wallace Bay Field Trip
>
> Yes Jim, they were, though, Clarence Stevens Jr. thought that there  
> was one that looked like a red-necked grebe, though I'm not sure if  
> he was certain. Paul would, no doubt, know for sure.
>
> Gayle MacLean
>
> --- On Sun, 7/19/09, James W. Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> From: James W. Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: Wallace Bay Field Trip
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca, "Gayle MacLean" <duartess2003@yahoo.ca>
> Cc: "Paul MacDonald" <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
> Received: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:39 PM
>
> Gayle and Paul, I presume the grebes mentioned were pied-billed?   
> Jim in Wolfville
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Gayle MacLean <duartess2003@yahoo.ca>
>> Date: July 19, 2009 12:37:08 PM ADT
>> To: naturelist <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: [NatureNS] From Paul MacDonald: Re: Wallace Bay Field Trip
>> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>
>> Permission given to post to NatureNS.
>>
>> --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gayle
>> I also enjoyed the walk. it was a pleasure to have both of you along.
>> After you left I took the canoe and went to pond 1 to examine the  
>> Grebe nests that we could see from shore. The adults had deserted  
>> all the nests.  Four nests were empty and as there was 3 broods in  
>> the area ( 1, 3, and 6 young ) I presume these nests were successful.
>> The other 4 nests had eggs in them. One nest had 2  pure white  
>> eggs that looked as if they were never brooded but the water had  
>> come up and they were partially under water. so the heavy rains  
>> may have been a factor.
>> The other nests had stained dark olive or nearly black eggs that  
>> looked as if they had been brooded for some time but prehaps had  
>> failed to hatch. Water was up around them also. There was 1, 4,  
>> and  8 eggs in these nests. One nest - the 4 had a few stems of  
>> milfoil over the eggs.
>> The nests were all constructed of water milfoil in about 1 meter  
>> of water. Unfortunately I forgot to measure the depth of the water  
>> with a ruler but went by the depth on the paddle. The grebes had  
>> twisted the mifloil together to make a frail platform and added a  
>> few pieces to the top. It was anchored with the milfoil roots but  
>> didn't have much up and down movement so if the water level went  
>> up - bad things could happen.
>> One nest had the head and skeleton of a hooded merganser included  
>> in the construction. Presumable the skeleton had been at the  
>> bottom of the pond and the grebes had brought it up. An eagle was  
>> flying around but as the nests were deserted and the eggs were in  
>> the open, it showed no interest in feeding on them.
>> An interesting day.
>> Please feel free to post this on Nature NS if you would like.
>> Hope to see you and Becky again.
>> Paul
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> My sister, Becky Dumeah, and I, want to thank you, so much, for  
>> leading us on our first Birding Field Trip. It was truly, a  
>> pleasure to meet you all.
>>
>> Though our group was small, having you, and both Clarence Stevens  
>> Sr. and Jr.there, it  certainly included a wealth of expertise in  
>> the field of bird identification! Becky and I were very lucky to  
>> have such a knowledgeable group to point out & ID the many birds  
>> that we did see, a number, which were seen for the first time, by  
>> both my sister and me. Those memories are always treasured by me.
>>
>> We truly enjoyed the whole time, bugs and all!
>>
>> I hope to see you again on another Field Trip in the future.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Gayle MacLean
>> Dartmouth
>>
>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
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>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
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>
>
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<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-intercha=
nge-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margi=
n-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helveti=
ca" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #0=
00000"><b>From: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"fon=
t: 12.0px Helvetica">Gayle MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duartess2003@yahoo=
.ca">duartess2003@yahoo.ca</a>></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"He=
lvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; colo=
r: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=
=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 19, 2009 9:12:29 PM ADT</font></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left=
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t: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvet=
ica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">"James W. Wolford" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>></font></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; m=
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yle=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font=
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ace Bay Field Trip</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-ri=
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iv> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td =
valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>Yes Jim, they were, though, Cl=
arence Stevens Jr. thought that there was one that=A0looked like=A0a red-ne=
cked grebe, though I'm not sure if he was certain. Paul would, no doubt, kn=
ow for sure.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Gayle MacLean<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, =
7/19/09, James W. Wolford <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">=
jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div> <blockquote style=3D"P=
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<br>From: James W. Wolford &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">ji=
mwolford@eastlink.ca</a>><br>Subject: Re: Wallace Bay Field Trip<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>, "Gayle=
 MacLean" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duartess2003@yahoo.ca">duartess2003@yahoo.c=
a</a>><br>Cc: "Paul MacDonald" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com=
">paulrita2001@yahoo.com</a>><br>Received: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:39 PM<b=
r><br> <div id=3D"yiv155315986">Gayle and Paul, I presume the grebes mentio=
ned were pied-billed? =A0Jim in Wolfville<br> <div><br> <div>Begin forwarde=
d message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=
=3D"cite"> <div style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><font style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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b></font><font style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"=
>Gayle MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"http://ca.mc379.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=
=3Dduartess2003@yahoo.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:duartess2003@yahoo.ca">duartess2003@yahoo.ca</a>></font></div> <div sty=
le=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><font style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; COLOR: #000000" fac=
e=3D"Helvetica" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3"><b>Date: </b></font><font styl=
e=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3">July 19, 2009 12:3=
7:08 PM ADT</font></div> <div style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><font style=3D"FONT: 12=
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3"><b>To: </b></font><font style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=3D"Helvetica=
" size=3D"3">naturelist &lt;<a href=3D"http://ca.mc379.mail.yahoo.com/mc/co=
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b>[NatureNS] From Paul MacDonald: Re: Wallace Bay Field Trip</b></font></di=
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rder=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign=3D"top">Permission given to post to Nat=
ureNS.<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 7/19/09, Paul MacDonald <i>&lt;<a href=3D"http=
://ca.mc379.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dpaulrita2001@yahoo.com" target=
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> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td=
 valign=3D"top"> <div>Hi Gayle</div> <div>I also enjoyed the walk. it was a=
 pleasure to have both of you along.</div> <div>After you left I took the c=
anoe and went to pond 1 to examine the Grebe nests that we could see from s=
hore. The adults had deserted all the nests.=A0 Four nests were empty and a=
s there was 3 broods in the area ( 1, 3, and 6 young ) I presume these nest=
s were successful.</div> <div>The other 4 nests had eggs in them. One nest =
had 2=A0 pure white eggs that looked as if they were never brooded but the =
water had come up and they were partially under water. so the heavy rains m=
ay have been a factor.</div> <div>The other nests had stained dark olive or=
 nearly black eggs that looked as if they had been brooded for some time bu=
t prehaps had failed to hatch. Water was up around them also. There was 1, =
4, and =A08 eggs in these nests. One nest - the 4 had a few stems of milfoi=
l over the eggs.</div> <div>The nests were all constructed of water milfoil=
 in about 1 meter of water. Unfortunately I forgot to measure the depth of =
the water with a ruler but went by the depth on the paddle. The grebes had =
twisted the mifloil together to make a frail platform and added a few piece=
s to the top. It was anchored with the milfoil roots but didn't have much u=
p and down movement so if the water level went up - bad things could happen=
.</div> <div>One nest had the head and skeleton of a hooded merganser inclu=
ded in the construction. Presumable the skeleton had been at the bottom of =
the pond and the grebes had brought it up. An eagle was flying around but a=
s the nests were deserted and the eggs were in the open, it showed no inter=
est in feeding on them.</div> <div>An interesting day.</div> <div>Please fe=
el free to post this on Nature NS if you would like.</div> <div>Hope to see=
 you and Becky again.</div> <div>Paul<br><br></div> <blockquote style=3D"PA=
DDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> =
<div id=3D"yiv1492442708"> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" borde=
r=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign=3D"top"> <div>Hi Paul,</div> <div>=A0</div=
> <div>My sister, Becky Dumeah, and I, want to=A0thank you, so much, for le=
ading us on our first Birding Field Trip. It was truly, a pleasure to meet =
you all.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Though=A0our group was small,=A0having y=
ou, and both Clarence Stevens Sr. and Jr.there, it=A0 certainly=A0included=
=A0a wealth of expertise in the field of bird identification! Becky and I w=
ere very lucky to have such a knowledgeable group to point out &amp; ID the=
 many birds that we did=A0see, a number, which were seen for the first time=
, by both my sister and me. Those memories are always treasured by me.</div=
> <div>=A0</div> <div>We truly enjoyed the whole time, bugs and all! <img s=
rc=3D"http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif"></div> <div=
>=A0</div> <div>I hope to see you again on another Field Trip in the future=
.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Best wishes,</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Gayle Ma=
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