[NatureNS] Curious growths on oak tree leaves

Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:48:57 -0300
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Actually, we live way out in the country and I don't believe I've seen 
any oak trees at the few houses within that radius... I've spent a fair 
amount of time exploring the woods around us, have never spotted an oak 
(they're one of my favorite trees)...so you never know...it might work!  
Not a big deal tho!  I've just been curious about these galls for the 
past few years, mystery solved, thanks again!
Maria

Christopher Majka wrote:
> Hi Maria,
>
> Cynipids are small wasps that fly very well and (one presumes) are 
> readily able to detect oak trees. You'd probably have to collect and 
> destroy all the galls from all the oaks from a very substantial area 
> (on the order of a kilometer or more I should guess) in order to 
> eliminate the supply of cynipds able to colonize your tree - a 
> substantial amount of work I would assume ... ;->
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chris
>
> On 16-Jul-09, at 11:17 PM, Phil & Maria wrote:
>
>> The cycle of laying the eggs and them showing up on the leaves...if I 
>> collect all the leaves that have the galls on them and destroy them, 
>> will this eventually stop happening to the tree...I guess if they're 
>> not really harming anything it's no big deal and I probably wouldn't 
>> be able to stop it from happening anyways.
>> Maria
>>
>> Christopher Majka wrote:
>>> Hi Maria,
>>>
>>> On 16-Jul-09, at 9:44 PM, Phil & Maria wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Christopher!
>>>> I followed your link and read up on the apple gall 
>>>> wasp...apparently it's nothing to worry about, and I need not do 
>>>> anything at all as it won't harm the tree and it won't harm people. 
>>>> I'm wondering tho, if I destroy the galls when the first start 
>>>> appearing, will I eventually break the cycle?
>>>
>>> Break what cycle?
>>>
>>>> Another interesting note...there is a young oak tree at my cottage 
>>>> in Upper Economy...my father planted both these trees...the one at 
>>>> the cottage first, and mine a couple of years later.  I checked the 
>>>> cottage one...there are no galls on it this year at all, although I 
>>>> know they have been there previous years...I wonder why that is?
>>>
>>> Nature has many mysteries, and unfortunately trees can't speak ... ;->
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Majka  <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca 
>>> <mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca>> | Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
>>>
>>> * Research Associate: Nova Scotia Museum 
>>> | http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/research-asfr.htm
>>> * Review Editor: The Coleopterists Bulletin | http://www.coleopsoc.org/
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>>> | http://www.acadianes.org/journal.html
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>>> | http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html
>>>
>>> /"Whenever I hear of the capture of rare beetles, I feel like an old 
>>> war-horse at the sound of a trumpet."/ - Charles Darwin
>>>
>

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Actually, we live way out in the country and I don't believe I've seen
any oak trees at the few houses within that radius... I've spent a fair
amount of time exploring the woods around us, have never spotted an oak
(they're one of my favorite trees)...so you never know...it might
work!&nbsp; Not a big deal tho!&nbsp; I've just been curious about these galls
for the past few years, mystery solved, thanks again!<br>
Maria<br>
<br>
Christopher Majka wrote:
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 cite="mid:73EC531A-A997-485E-B59D-1E6DCA0AFD3C@ns.sympatico.ca"
 type="cite">Hi Maria,
  <div><br>
  </div>
  <div>Cynipids are small wasps that fly very well and (one presumes)
are readily&nbsp;able to&nbsp;detect oak trees. You'd probably have to collect
and destroy all the galls from all the oaks from a very substantial
area (on the order of a kilometer or more I should guess) in order to
eliminate the supply of cynipds able to colonize your tree - a
substantial amount of work I would assume ... ;-&gt;</div>
  <div><br>
  </div>
  <div>Cheers!</div>
  <div><br>
  </div>
  <div>Chris</div>
  <div><br>
  <div>
  <div>On 16-Jul-09, at 11:17 PM, Phil &amp; Maria wrote:</div>
  <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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    <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> The cycle of laying the eggs
and them showing up on the leaves...if I collect all the leaves that
have the galls on them and destroy them, will this eventually stop
happening to the tree...I guess if they're not really harming anything
it's no big deal and I probably wouldn't be able to stop it from
happening anyways.<br>
Maria<br>
    <br>
Christopher Majka wrote:
    <blockquote
 cite="mid:6F6C87FA-118D-44BD-AB93-35E57D252796@ns.sympatico.ca"
 type="cite">Hi Maria,
      <div><br>
      <div>
      <div>On 16-Jul-09, at 9:44 PM, Phil &amp; Maria wrote:</div>
      <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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        <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks Christopher!<br>
I followed your link and read up on the apple gall wasp...apparently
it's nothing to worry about, and I need not do anything at all as it
won't harm the tree and it won't harm people.&nbsp; <br>
I'm wondering tho, if I destroy the galls when the first start
appearing, will I eventually break the cycle?<br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Break what cycle?</div>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Another interesting
note...there is a young oak tree at my cottage in Upper Economy...my
father planted both these trees...the one at the cottage first, and
mine a couple of years later.&nbsp; I checked the cottage one...there are no
galls on it this year at all, although I know they have been there
previous years...I wonder why that is?<br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      </div>
      <div>Nature has many mysteries, and unfortunately trees can't
speak ... ;-&gt;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Cheers!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Chris</div>
      <br>
      <br>
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      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
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&nbsp;&lt;c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca&gt;
|&nbsp;Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada</span></font></div>
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      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">* Research
Associate: Nova Scotia Museum |&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/research-asfr.htm">http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/research-asfr.htm</a></span></font></div>
      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">* Review Editor: The
Coleopterists Bulletin |&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.coleopsoc.org/">http://www.coleopsoc.org/</a></span></font></div>
      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">* Subject Editor:
ZooKeys |&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php/journal/index">http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php/journal/index</a></span></font></div>
      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">* Associate Editor:
Journal of the Acadian Entomological Society |&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.acadianes.org/journal.html">http://www.acadianes.org/journal.html</a></span></font></div>
      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">* Editor: Atlantic
Canada Coleoptera |&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html">http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html</a></span></font></div>
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      <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><font
 class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span"
 style="font-size: 12px;"><i>"Whenever I hear of the capture of
rare&nbsp;beetles, I feel like an old war-horse at the sound of a trumpet."</i></span></font><span
 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><span
 class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>- Charles&nbsp;Darwin</span></font></div>
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