[NatureNS] Peter or Peters Island

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:00:20 -0400
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Dave,
I agree with you.  The authority (probably actually a low-level clerk =20=

or draftsman) sometimes assigns a name not even used by locals.  There =20=

also is a phobia against possessives in place names.  That may be what =20=

is behind the desire to use Peter instead of Peters (or really =20
Peter's).  Who knows: maybe they think that they are making a smaller =20=

carbon footprint by saving on ink.
They generally will not use an apostrophe where it is appropriate.  =20
Now Peter's Island sounds to me like a possessive: the island must =20
have belonged to someone named Peter, or perhaps it was discovered by =20=

him, or he was shipwrecked on it, &c.  There should be an apostrophe =20
in there, at least in the English language as ordinarily used.

Maybe it's early in the morning, or maybe I am just an overly =20
sensitive English-speaker.  (Note that I am an "English-speaker", and =20=

I will feel strongly motivated to punch out anyone who calls me an =20
"anglophone".)

=97Paul

On Jul 10, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Dave/Sharon wrote:

> As a Brier Island resident, born here over 60 years ago this is my =20
> slant on this topic: I beleive all the long time residents of =20
> Westport & Freeport call Peters Island, Peters Island. This is the =20
> traditional name used when this island is refered to. Why should an =20=

> outside, so called authority, give the island another name or have =20
> the authority to do so?  It would be like calling Halifax, Halifix. =20=

> What a riot that would cause. I think the maping people & the =20
> Gazetter of Canada should amend the name they have given Peters  =20
> Island.
> Next!!
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Majka
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Peter or Peters Island
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> The Gazetter of Canada for Nova Scotia calls it Peter Island.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> On 9-Jul-08, at 11:46 PM, Andy Moir/Chris Callaghan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the official name of the island between Brier =20
>> Island and Long Island.  The Nova Scotia map says Peter Island.  =20
>> The Lighthouse Society website says Peter Island.  Many locals call =20=

>> it Peters Island (Peters is a long standing Islands name).  I need =20=

>> to use the name in an interpretive panel, and I'd like to get it =20
>> right.
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>
> Christopher Majka
> Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  =20
> B3H 3A6
> c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca
>
>
>
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dave,<div>I agree with you. =
&nbsp;The authority (probably actually a low-level clerk or draftsman) =
sometimes assigns a name not even used by locals. &nbsp;There also is a =
phobia against possessives in place names. &nbsp;That may be what is =
behind the desire to use Peter instead of Peters (or really Peter's). =
&nbsp;Who knows: maybe they think that they are making a smaller carbon =
footprint by saving on ink.</div><div>They generally will not use an =
apostrophe where it is appropriate. &nbsp;Now Peter's Island sounds to =
me like a possessive: the island must have belonged to someone named =
Peter, or perhaps it was discovered by him, or he was shipwrecked on it, =
&amp;c. &nbsp;There should be an apostrophe in there, at least in the =
English language as ordinarily used.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe it's =
early in the morning, or maybe I am just an overly sensitive =
English-speaker. &nbsp;(Note that I am an "English-speaker", and I will =
feel strongly motivated to punch out anyone who calls me&nbsp;an =
"anglophone".)</div><div><br></div><div>=97Paul</div><div><br><div><div>On=
 Jul 10, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Dave/Sharon wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">As a Brier Island resident, born here over 60 years ago this =
is my slant on this topic: I beleive all the long time&nbsp;residents of =
Westport &amp; Freeport call Peters Island, Peters Island. This is the =
traditional name used when this island is refered to. Why should an =
outside, so called authority, give the island another name or have the =
authority to do so?&nbsp; It would be like calling Halifax, Halifix. =
What a riot that would cause. I think the maping people &amp; the =
Gazetter of Canada should amend the name they have given Peters&nbsp; =
Island.</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">Next!!</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2">Dave</font></div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
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normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message =
-----</div><div style=3D"background-image: initial; background-repeat: =
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228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">Christopher Majka</a></div><div =
style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span =
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title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebuct