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accelerate s Stephen Shaw wrote: > > For a recent window into the real field of climate research that I just > happened upon, there are two interesting articles in the weekly journal > "Nature", 15 May 2008, volume 453, pages 379-382, and 383-386, and a more > accessible commentary on this area by E. Brook "Windows on the > greenhouse", on > pages 291-2. This is the latest about sampling Antarctic ice cores for > greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane, extending back now to > 800,000 > years before present. This shows remarkably close co-variation among CO2, > methane and temperature levels in the 800,000 years. The commentary also > contains the clearest (cleanest) graphic I've yet seen of the CO2 and > methane > levels during the past 2000 years. These levels remained essentially > flat > throughout the pre-industrial part of the last 2000 years, but started to > accelerate smoothly upwards ~200 years ago (hockey-stick profile) to > much higher > values than at any time in the preceding 800,000. Because Nature has a > for-profit publisher, I was surprised to find that I could also get to > this > commentary on Google from my house, at > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7193/full/453291a.html > This allows enlargement of the Figure 1 in question for a much better > view than > I had had, in the paper copy that I had been reading. Hope it works > for you > too. > Cheers, > Steve, Halifax Hi Steve & All, June 10, 2008 Here I am getting sucked into this. But just to raise one objection. Figure 1a shows without doubt that temperature, CO2 & CH4 are related but--- temperature starts to increase BEFORE CO2 & CH4 start to increase. There may subsequently be positive feedback, but at least initially, higher temperatures are driving CO2 & CH4 increase not the converse. I suppose one could call this 'tceffe esuohneerg a' but it would be awfully difficult to pronounce. Also there was a correction to the effect that the figure on page 291 (?) was based on a 1978 Doctoral thesis. It was not clear whether or not the figure to which they refer was Fig. 1 but I did not wish to pay $18 to find out. Yt, DW
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