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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C87091.274FF720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We recently noticed our sunflower seed in the feeders was not getting = any attention and wondered if it might be stale, or something wrong with = it....we were getting a lot of goldfinch, siskin, and redpoll = previously. We buy the seed in small amounts from various sources so = have no idea where the current supply originated and it may be purely = coincidence with no connection to the concern expressed , but it is food = for thought.=20 Andy & Lelia Dean 86 Baden Powell Drive Kentville, NS. Canada. B4N 5P5 Tel: [902] 678-6243 aadean@ns.sympatico.ca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eleanor Lindsay=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Questions James Hirtle wrote: > Hi all: > =20 > I recieved this recently and was wondering if anyone has any = knowledge=20 > on this issue. If indeed there is any truth to the following, I=20 > myself would find it somewhat disturbing. I would like to send an=20 > answer to the individual, but I have no first hand knowledge in=20 > regards to the topic. > =20 > James R. Hirtle > Dublin Shore > =20 > I am writing about sunflower seeds which I feed birds at my property = on > Hidden Lake in the Labelle/Chelsea area. > > In October my wife and I took a trip across Canada by train. On the > outskirts of Winnipeg we saw large fields packed with sunflower = plants=20 > that > were brown and withered looking. I felt this to be somewhat odd=20 > considering > that the weather was still quite summer like and that I had seen=20 > sunflower > plants in Maniban gardens that still seemed robustly upright and=20 > appealing > to the sun. > > Whe I arrived at my older son's place in Kelowna BC I happened to = ask him > whether he knew about the sunflower crops around Winnipeg. He had = spent > some time in Winnipeg and his girlfriend comes from a town out side = of=20 > that > city. My son said that he was told that the sunflower plants are = sprayed > with Round Up to facilitate the harvesting of the plants and the=20 > gathering > of their seeds. > > In January of this year I purchased an 18 kg bag of sunflower seeds = at > Costco in Halifax. On the bag was printed the name of the company,=20 > Keystone > Grain Limited (they have a website) that distribute the seed and I=20 > noticed > it was in Winnipeg. I looked on the bag for more infornmation and = was > surprised to see no mention that the seed wasn't for human=20 > consumption. So > I wrote them an e-mail to find out if the seed was fit for humans. I = have > had no reply. > > I was wondering whether you, because of your area of expertise, = would=20 > have > any knowledge if in fact this is a method used to harvest the seed = and > whether use of such seed - possibly corrupted or contaminated with a > herbicide - would be detrimental to birds. > > I read and hear of the decimation and reduction in the counts of = some=20 > types > of birds. Could this be a factor to consider or at least make notice = of? > =20 > > =20 > =20 > > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This may or may not be relevant to the above, but this past winter I=20 have noted a very dramatic reduction in black oil sunflower seed=20 consumption compared with all previous 20++ years of bird feeding=20 (seeds for which I get locally here in Tantallon). The local supplier=20 told me at the beginning of this season that he had changed suppliers = so=20 I have just contacted him after reading the above to ask where he is = now=20 getting the seeds from; he tells me they come from a distributing=20 company, Armstrong, in Ontario, but that at least some of the seeds, = if=20 not all, may well come from further west. He tells me he is not = hearing=20 from other customers about any change in feeding patterns - but he = also=20 hasn't asked - and I am left with an even greater concern than I = already=20 had about the low consumption I am noting. Just for interest I am = going=20 to try and get some seeds that originate from a different source to = see=20 if that makes any difference. I'll keep you posted.......... Eleanor Lindsay ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C87091.274FF720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3268" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We recently noticed our sunflower = seed in the=20 feeders was not getting any attention and wondered if it might be stale, = or=20 something wrong with it....we were getting a lot of goldfinch, siskin, = and=20 redpoll previously. We buy the seed in small amounts from various = sources so=20 have no idea where the current supply originated and it may be purely=20 coincidence with no connection to the concern expressed , but it is food = for=20 thought. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy & Lelia Dean<BR>86 Baden = Powell=20 Drive<BR>Kentville, NS. Canada. B4N 5P5<BR>Tel: [902] = 678-6243</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:aadean@ns.sympatico.ca">aadean@ns.sympatico.ca</A></FONT><= /DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Daz678@chebucto.ns.ca = href=3D"mailto:az678@chebucto.ns.ca">Eleanor=20 Lindsay</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 16, = 2008 10:36=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] = Questions</DIV> <