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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --Apple-Mail-4-85096557 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I was about to follow up to the list re Carl's message this morning and my phone conversation with him this evening, but I see that Pat has covered that already. Thanks Pat. Pat Kelly, Larry Bogan and I are three that I know of who regularly receive the listserve messages of both NatureNS and Halifax RASCals. This was one occasion when an observation on one list, directly added to messages being exchanged on the other. Carl Haycock observed ACT I (the rocket launch) and Roy Bishop and other RASCals observed ACT II (the fuel dump after the first orbit) of the same event, an event which ended up making the CBC NATIONAL this evening. You may also be interested in this additional link shared by Dave Lane on the RASCal list: a link to a movie clip giving some idea about what ACT II looked like. http://www.kfetter.com/satvideo/other/fuelvent.wmv Unfortunately I missid all the excitement. Near Windsor, just minutes before the event (ACT II) took place, a group of star watchers which I was assisting, were studying that very section of sky, we had just turned our backs to it and had gone inside to get warm (then about 7:45, we had been observing since shortly after seven). When we returned our gazing, about 35 minutes later, the noticeable part was over. Ahh, timing is everything! You can imagine my disappointment when I arrived home to the RASCals email banter about the weird sighting in the sky, some were thinking that maybe Comet Holmes was acting up again! Sherman Williams shermw@xcountry.tv On 11-Dec-07, at 9:47 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > Hello Carl: > > What you saw was actually a fuel dump from a rocket launch that > was putting a spy satellite into orbit. .Here is a note from the > RASC list. > >> Thanks to Sherman Williams, here is a report from a fellow who saw >> the initial launch (but did not realize what he was seeing), plus >> a website that describes the launch and subsequent events. In >> summary (all times AST): >> >> 18:05 Launch of Atlas 5 rocket carrying spy satellite. >> 18:09 First stage separates from the Centaur hydrogen-burning >> second stage. >> 18:15 (+/-) Report from Westport NS (at the tip of Digby neck) >> (see below). >> 19:40 (+/-) After one orbit the Centaur second-stage dumps >> residual propellant. >> 19:58 I spotted the fuel dump, and followed the spectacle for >> more than an hour. >> >> As was apparent from the motion of the satellite and the spent >> Centaur rocket last evening, the orbit is a high one. The website >> (below) states that it is highly elliptical, extending outward >> 25,000 miles. >> >> Rocket Launch site >> http://www.spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av015/ >> > > > On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Carl Haycock wrote: > >> Monday night ar app. 6:15p.m. I viewed a spectacular meteorite >> (meteor,bollide?)event. From the Grand Passage(Westport harbour) >> on Brier >> Island I saw 2 bright white lights falling from the sky to the >> southeast >> over St. Mary's Bay. Then a 3rd huge orange ball following along >> with the >> other 2. The sky lit up in an orange blaze for a few moments. >> Initially I >> asssumed it was an Aurora aircraft from Greenwood doing search and >> rescue >> operations and dropping flares (which I have seen in the past and >> this event >> looked just like that). I was stunned for a moment, heard no >> aircraft and >> then realized that it must have been a meteorite breaking up. It >> was quite >> awesome. >> >> Carl Haycock >> Westport >> >> > > ====================================================================== > ==== > Patrick Kelly > Director of Computer Facilities > ====================================================================== > ==== > Faculty of Architecture and Planning > Dalhousie University > ====================================================================== > ==== > PO Box 1000 Stn Central 5410 Spring Garden Road > Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2X4 > Canada Canada > ====================================================================== > ==== > Phone:(902) 494-3294 FAX:(902) 423-6672 E- > mail:patrick.kelly@dal.ca > ====================================================================== > ==== > --Apple-Mail-4-85096557 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I was about to follow up to the = list re Carl's message this morning and my phone conversation with him = this evening, but I see that Pat has covered that already. =A0Thanks = Pat. =A0<div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Pat = Kelly, Larry Bogan and I are three that I know of who regularly receive = the listserve messages of both NatureNS and Halifax RASCals. This was = one occasion when an observation on one list, directly added to messages = being exchanged on the other. =A0 Carl Haycock observed ACT I (the = rocket launch) and Roy Bishop and other RASCals observed ACT II (the = fuel dump after the first orbit) of the same event, an event which ended = up making the CBC NATIONAL this evening.<div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>You may also be interested = in this additional link shared by Dave Lane on the RASCal list: a link = to a movie clip giving some idea about what ACT II looked = like.</div><div>=A0</div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#0000ed" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica; color: #0000ed"><u><a = href=3D"http://www.kfetter.com/satvideo/other/fuelvent.wmv">http://www.kfe= tter.com/satvideo/other/fuelvent.wmv</a></u></font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = color=3D"#0000ED"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Unfortunately I missid all the excitement. =A0Near = Windsor, just minutes before the event (ACT II) took place, a group of = star watchers which I was assisting, were studying that very section of = sky, we had just turned our backs to it and had gone inside to get warm = (then about 7:45, we had been observing since shortly after seven). When = we returned our gazing, about 35 minutes later, =A0the noticeable part = was over. =A0 Ahh, timing is everything! =A0You can imagine my = disappointment when I arrived home to the RASCals email banter about the = weird sighting in the sky, some were thinking that maybe Comet Holmes = was acting up again!</div></div><div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"= style=3D"border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; = -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Sherman = Williams</div><div><a = href=3D"mailto:shermw@xcountry.tv">shermw@xcountry.tv</a></div><div><br = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br><div><div>On = 11-Dec-07, at 9:47 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Hello Carl:</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">What you saw was actually a fuel dump from a rocket = launch that<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>was putting = a spy satellite into orbit. .Here is a note from the RASC = list.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">Thanks to Sherman Williams, = here is a report from a fellow who saw the initial launch (but did not = realize what he was seeing), plus a website that describes the launch = and subsequent events. In summary (all times AST):</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">18:05=A0 = Launch of Atlas 5 rocket carrying spy satellite.</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">18:09=A0 First stage separates from the Centaur = hydrogen-burning second stage.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">18:15 = (+/-)=A0 Report from Westport NS (at the tip of Digby neck) (see = below).</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">19:40 (+/-)=A0 After one = orbit the Centaur second-stage dumps residual = propellant.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">19:58=A0 I spotted the fuel = dump, and followed the spectacle for more than an hour.</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">As was = apparent from the motion of the satellite and the spent Centaur rocket = last evening, the orbit is a high one. The website (below) states that = it is highly elliptical, extending outward 25,000 = miles.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#560000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #560000">Rocket Launch = site</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" color=3D"#0000ee" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #0000ee"><a = href=3D"http://www.spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av015/">http://www.spaceflight= now.com/atlas/av015/</a></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> = </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal = 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Dec = 11, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Carl Haycock wrote:</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Monday night ar app. 6:15p.m. I viewed a spectacular = meteorite</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">(meteor,bollide?)event. =46rom= the Grand Passage(Westport harbour) on Brier</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Island I saw 2 bright white lights falling from the = sky to the southeast</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">over St. = Mary's Bay. Then a 3rd huge orange ball following along with = the</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">other 2. The sky lit up in = an orange blaze for a few moments. Initially I</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">asssumed it was an Aurora aircraft from Greenwood = doing search and rescue</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">operations and dropping flares (which I have seen in the past = and this event</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" = size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">looked just like that). I = was stunned for a moment, heard no aircraft and</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">then realized that it must have been a meteorite = breaking up. It was quite</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">awesome.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: = 12.0px Helvetica">Carl Haycock</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">Westport</font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal = normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; 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