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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-72-989490569 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Suzanne, There are many sources that one could go to, and many different opinions that one could (or could not) rely on, however, in this instance I advance my case on the fact that the English word "Pileated" derives from the Latin word "pileatus" which consists of four syllables, the emphasis on the first, and the pronunciation of the 'i' being long. Not only that, but most other English words derived from the Latin root "pileus" also employ a long "i" and all of them put the stress on the first syllable. In general (not always, of course), English words formed from Latin roots, do follow the pronunciation and emphasis of the original. Thus from the standpoint of etymology the most "correct" pronunciation would be "Pie'-lea-ate-ed". Usage, of course, can depart from etymology and over time establish other "correct" pronunciations (as so-deemed by pillars of the English language like the O.E.D.) ;->. Cheers, Chris On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Suzanne Townsend wrote: > It all depends on which style book you use, doesn't it? I would > think that Cornell would be the most common (as in shared) > reference for birders. Cornell says that PIE-lee-ay-tid and PILL-ee- > ay-tid are both correct. The site yourdictionary.com does too, and > has a button to hear the pronunciation. > > > > > All these pronunciations are out there, and arguably the birds > don't actually care what they are called, however, technically the > correct pronunciation should be "Pie'-lea-ate-ed", i.e. four > syllables with the emphasis on first one and the "i" pronounced long. > > Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca --Apple-Mail-72-989490569 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Hi Suzanne,<div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>There = are many sources that one could go to, and many different opinions that = one could (or could not) rely on, however, in this instance I advance my = case on the fact that the English word "Pileated" derives from the Latin = word=A0"<i>pileatus</i>" which consists of four=A0syllables, the = emphasis on the first, and the=A0pronunciation=A0of the 'i' being long. = Not only that, but most other English words derived from the Latin = root=A0"<i>pileus</i>" also employ a long "i" and all of them put the = stress on the first syllable.=A0</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>In general (not always, of = course), English words formed from Latin roots, do follow = the=A0pronunciation=A0and emphasis of the original. Thus from the = standpoint of etymology the most "correct"=A0pronunciation=A0would = be=A0"Pie'-lea-ate-ed".=A0Usage, of course, can depart from etymology = and over time establish other "correct"=A0pronunciations (as so-deemed = by pillars of the English language like the O.E.D.) = ;->.</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Chris</div><div><br><div><di= v>On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Suzanne Townsend wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><font = size=3D"2">It all depends on which style book you use, doesn't it? I = would think that Cornell would be the most common (as in shared) = reference for birders. Cornell says that PIE-lee-ay-tid and = PILL-ee-ay-tid are both correct. The site <a = href=3D"http://yourdictionary.com">yourdictionary.com</a> does too, and = has a button to hear the pronunciation.</font></div> <div><font = size=3D"2"></font><br><br>=A0</div> <div> <blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px = 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> = <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: = 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <div> <div> = <div> <div>=A0</div> <div>All these=A0pronunciations=A0are out there, = and arguably the birds don't actually care what they are called, = however, technically the correct=A0pronunciation=A0should be = "Pie'-lea-ate-ed", i.e. four=A0syllables=A0with the emphasis on first = one and the "i" pronounced long. </div> = <div><br>=A0</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>= </blockquote></div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; = -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Christopher = Majka</div><div>Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova = Scotia, Canada=A0 B3H 3A6</div><div><a = href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a></div><= div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span> = </div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-72-989490569--
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