[NatureNS] Why do male hummers...

From: "Roland McCormick" <roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
References: <011001c7b5ed$8dceded0$ca01a8c0@galatea> <000001c7b5fe$4b099bb0$e11cd310$@com> <007e01c7b675$ad9dfe70$ca01a8c0@galatea>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:09:35 -0300
Precedence: bulk
Return-Path: <naturens-mml-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
Original-Recipient: rfc822;"| (cd /csuite/info/Environment/FNSN/MList; /csuite/lib/arch2html)"

next message in archive
next message in thread
previous message in archive
previous message in thread
Index of Subjects

cause the hormonal changes that will send him on his way. At this tim
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C7B669.4B927820
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For a number of years I have had a male and female hummer at the back of =
my lot - presumably they have had a nest there although I have never =
seen any young. This year I have not seen a male hummer, but a female is =
around almost every day. I don't go looking for nests because I don't =
think it is wise to disturb nesting birds, but I think there is probably =
a nest there tended by the female with the male having deserted the poor =
girl.

Roland.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Peter Payzant=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Why do male hummers...


  So, even if a male hummer is suitably fattened up to begin the =
migration south, he still has to wait for the shortening days to cause =
the hormonal changes that will send him on his way. At this time of =
year, the day length is changing very slowly (think of the top of a sine =
curve), so presumably the hormones won't start flowing for at least a =
few weeks until the days are noticeably shorter. Even if it makes sense =
in every respect for the males to be on their way, they won't know it =
until the shortening day length sends them the message.

  Peter


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Wild Flora=20
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
    Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:23 PM
    Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Why do male hummers...


    According to the http://www.hummingbirds.net website, male =
hummingbirds and female hummingbirds are on a different migration =
schedule. (See below.) As to why they don't migrate any sooner, the main =
reason is that they migrate in response to hormonal changes that are =
triggered by changes in daylight. However, this probably confers a =
survival advantage because it gives them more time to fatten up before =
they make that long journey. They need to get to something like double =
their normal weight before they start out. According to Connie Toops's =
book "Hummingbirds: Jewels in Flight," banding studies suggest that =
hummers will postpone migration if they are underweight. This is why =
it's probably a good idea to keep feeders up late into the fall.

    =20

    Here's what the hummingbirds.net site has to say about hummingbird =
gender differences in migration:

    Male hummingbirds migrate northward as much as three weeks earlier =
in the spring than females. In the fall, the mature males similarly =
leave earlier than females and immature birds. [Males may start =
migrating as early as July in some areas.] Several reasons are generally =
offered for this behavior:=20

      a.. by arriving first, the earliest males have their choice of the =
best territories, which improves their chances of attracting females for =
breeding. But this advantage must be balanced against the risk of =
arriving before food is plentiful.=20
      b.. females - who will soon be nesting - will find more and =
better-developed flowers on the spring migration route if they leave =
somewhat later; in promiscuous species such as hummingbirds, which do =
not form pair bonds at all, breeding females are more valuable than =
males, and a reliable food supply reduces their risk.=20
      c.. the early fall departure of the males may leave a richer diet =
available for the developing young of the year.=20
    =20

    =20

    From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Peter Payzant
    Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:24 PM
    To: naturens@chebucto.ca
    Subject: [NatureNS] Why do male hummers...

    =20

    Hi, all-

    =20

    Here's a question that I ponder from time to time: Why do male =
hummingbirds wait around here all summer before migrating south?

    =20

    Once they've mated with a female, their purpose here is essentially =
over. They don't help in taking care of the young, and there's only one =
brood per female per year. In fact, you could say that the males create =
a negative reproductive pressure by competing with the females and young =
for food.=20

    =20

    Why don't they just go back south once the females are sitting on =
nests?

    =20

    I can think of a few not-very-convincing reasons:

    =20

    - The environment here (food, shelter, weather, predation pressure) =
might be better than on their southern range

    =20

    - Some resources that they need on migration are not yet ready (e.g. =
some important flowers not generating nectar yet)

    =20

    - There's always a chance that an un-mated female will turn up (I =
call this the "wishful thinking" hypothesis)

    =20

    Any other thoughts?

    =20

    Peter Payzant

    Waverley

    =20

    =20



    __________ NOD32 2349 (20070623) Information __________

    This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
    http://www.eset.com



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----


  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20
  Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: =
6/24/2007 8:33 AM

------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C7B669.4B927820
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =3D=20
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE>@font-face {
	font-family: Wingdings;
}
@font-face {
	font-family: Wingdings;
}
@font-face {
	font-family: Calibri;
}
@font-face {
	font-family: Tahoma;
}
@font-face {
	font-family: Verdana;
}
@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; }
P.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New =
Roman","serif"
}
LI.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New =
Roman","serif"
}
DIV.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New =
Roman","serif"
}
H2 {
	FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 15.5pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-style-priority: 9; =
mso-style-link: "Heading 2 Char"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; =
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto
}
A:link {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlink {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
A:visited {
	COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-sty