[NatureNS] Dolichopodid fly species - images need ID

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Hi Steve,

I took a look at the Dolichopodidae in the NS Museum collection (53  
species) and there is nothing there that resembles the species in  
your photographs. There are some specimens of Hydophorus but they are  
all of a uniformly metallic colour and don't show the banded abdomen  
of the species in your photos.

Clueless ... ;->

Chris

On 3-Sep-06, at 7:28 PM, Stephen Shaw wrote:

> Hi Chris and others,
>  A couple of weeks back we visited the cliffs at Halls Harbour and  
> again
> encountered a distinctive, quite large, greenish banded dolichopodid
> (Dolochopdidae, long-legged flies), and this time I took some  
> photos.  The fly
> is about 7 mm long, head to abdomen tip, is common and populates  
> only the fresh
> water "seeps" that run out of the cliffs at frequent points. The  
> male has
> wing-tips that are particularly distinctive (black with a small  
> round clear
> "eyepot", and are presumably species-diagnostic (image 33, on site  
> below)). Apart from the occasional concertina-legged nematoceran  
> fly (may be a tipulid
> but not identified), the only other obvious insects present in this  
> demanding
> and species-poor habitat are bristletails.  These are currently  
> common, but too
> big in August to be the likely prey of this fly -- many dolichos  
> are predacious
> on smaller insects.  I also have some rather murky pics of dipteran  
> larvae up
> to 15 mm long associated with the green filamentous algae in the  
> same water
> seeps at the same time, that possibly could be larvae of the same  
> species.
>
> I've put two cropped photos of a live female dolicho on the cliff  
> face, and one
> of a pinned male on the Flickr site below, and would appreciate a  
> guess at the
> ID from Chris or anyone else who might have seen it before and is  
> reading this.
>
> If interested please take a look at the last 3 images I uploaded  
> (called 04),
> 06) and 33)) on this site:
>
> www.flickr.com/photos/steve_1968
>
> There are many species of _Hydrophorus_, a dolichopodid genus which  
> looks a
> likely candidate, but I've not found an image on Bugguide.net or  
> elsewhere so
> far that resembles this species. Has anyone noticed it before or  
> have any idea
> as to the ID?
>
> Steve Shaw
> Chocolate Lake, Halifax
>

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